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To: 8bits who wrote (93504)	11/13/2007 7:39:12 PM
From: Gary H	Respond to of 206093

slcgov.com

To: 8bits who wrote (93504)	11/13/2007 7:51:18 PM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 206093

You are linking oil consumption. KyrosL is talking about gasoline... quite different, although I cannot corroborate his figures...

To: 8bits who wrote (93504)	11/13/2007 8:04:43 PM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum	Respond to of 206093

This however is quite amazing to me.. not what I would have thought at all.. nationmaster.com Indirectly could support what you are thinking... Then again this one is suspect... Where is the US ? nationmaster.com

To: 8bits who wrote (93504)	11/13/2007 9:19:24 PM
From: KyrosL	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 206093

I am talking about gasoline consumption, not oil consumption. Oil is used in industrial production and you can't easily conserve, if you have a lot of manufacturing. European GDP is less services and more manufacturing than US GDP. Most European oil is used in industry and utilities. Here are gasoline consumption figures for 2003,2000, and 1990 for all countries. earthtrends.wri.org For 2003, USA consumption was 1635 liters per person, European consumption was 276 liters. So in 2003 we consumed 5.9 times more than Europe per capita. Notice also that European consumption is trending down, while US consumption is trending up. So, my estimate of six times less looks OK to me; it may even be an underestimate for 2007. Also, note that these numbers are not really being pulled down substantially by the relatively poor central and eastern Europe. Looking at consumption in the 5 biggest western European countries for 2003 we have: France 260 liters 6.3 times less Germany 403 .......4.0 times less Italy 345 .......4.7 times less Spain 243 .......6.7 times less UK 436 .......3.8 times less So, in western European countries, gasoline consumption was between 6.7 (Spain) and 3.8 (UK) times less than the US as of 2003.