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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (359414)	11/19/2007 6:11:00 PM
From: Alighieri	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1578281

Al, I know what Clinton "accomplished" in terms of ending FY 2000 with a true surplus. I know you hate the idea, but Clinton was a fiscally savvy president. Even AG, a lifelong republican, shares that view. Anyway, I was merely answering your question. I also remembered that it was the GOP who wanted to use the surpluses toward the SS "trust fund." I don't remember Al Gore ever mentioning a "lock box." You're kidding, right? The GOP wants to kill SS. It was Gore who made a campaign slogan of the SS and Medicare lock box. As for the "water under the proverbial bridge," let me ask you this. Which one of the current candidates for president are advocating saving up the Social Security surpluses? SS is not really a topic for primaries. A dem won't argue SS too vigorously against another dem who shares his/her views. Even so, several on the dem side have advocated raising the wage limit to generate more revenue. Let me remind you that it was the democrats who blocked bush from starting on the path to killing SS. Al

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (359414)	11/19/2007 6:56:56 PM
From: bentway	Respond to of 1578281

"I also remembered that it was the GOP who wanted to use the surpluses toward the SS "trust fund." I don't remember Al Gore ever mentioning a "lock box."" It wasn't the GOP. It was Bill Clinton an Bob Rubin who (wrongly) decided to pass the surplus on to the next President (at the urging of Alan Greenspan) rather than use it to pay down the debt. Of course, the next President should have been Gore.. ontheissues.org Here's all about Al Gore's lockbox: "Dedicate the budget surplus first to saving Social Security I will not go along with any proposal to strip one out of every six dollars from the Social Security trust fund and privatize the Social Security that you’re counting on. That’s Social Security minus. Our plan is Social Security plus. We will balance the budget every year, and dedicate the budget surplus first to saving Social Security. Putting both Social Security and Medicare in an iron-clad lock box where the politicians can’t touch them -- to me, that kind of common sense is a family value. Source: Speech to the 2000 Democratic National Convention Aug 18, 2000 " Don't have much of a memory, do you? We'd be SO much better off if Gore had won. No Iraq war, balanced budgets, peace and prosperity, oil at least $30 bbl cheaper..