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To: tejek who wrote (360547)	12/1/2007 7:11:54 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1578510

The Soviet Union wasn't an absolute test for socialism, it didn't give socialism in its best possible form, in its best possible situation. But it was indeed a test for socialism, and one that it failed miserably. If it was the only test, then perhaps the failure could be blamed on the specifics of the Soviet Union rather than socialism, but it wasn't the only test, and socialism for a whole economy has failed again and again every time it has been tried. If an Israeli kibbutz has a product that sells well, then everyone in the kibbutz does better. If it has a product that sells well. Again you are having a small socialist organization (and in many cases the kibbutzim are less and less socialist, which itself might be considered the results of a different type of test of socialism) in the context of a wider capitalist economy. Chunks of socialism, can be supported by, or in some cases even be actually successful themselves, if they have a free market to draw price information from, and if they are small enough that the people in the organization feel a close enough kinship to each other that success of the group provides enough incentive to the individuals. My point is and has been that socialism as the driving force for a whole economy is almost inevitably doomed to failure, not that pockets of socialism can't do ok.