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To: koan who wrote (100226)	12/2/2007 2:35:54 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 312986

PS, the one other time in mankind' history when he almost broke out of the yoke of dogmatic tyranny was during the great greek era, 200,300,400? BC. And the greeks were as good at science as they were at philosphy. And were better than any other culture, in both science or philosophy, for the next 1500 years after their destruction by Rome! Science and philosophy are two manifestations of the same phenomonen, like matter and energy.

To: koan who wrote (100226)	12/2/2007 4:38:42 PM
From: Canuck Dave	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 312986

I think you're using far too broad a brush. If some society established a pretty cool regime, you might never hear about it, everyone having a good time and all that. When we were in Prague this summer, we went to the Jewish Cemetery (largest in Eastern Europe) Overheard a tour group leader explaining how everyone got along extremely well until the Catholic Church came in about 1200 or so. Saw a headline on Page 17 of the Sun yesterday; "Pope Says Atheism is Cause of all World's Problems." Care for a debate, Cardinal? CD p.s. It's Mcluhan. You mean my whole fallacy’s wrong? marshallmcluhan.com