To: E. Charters who wrote (100386 ) 12/4/2007 7:29:50 AM From: koan Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 313013 EC: "'Rabs had algebra. So did the Hindus. The other perspective". koan: "I do not deny there were many great thinkers and even groups of great thinkers in many cultures around the world and throughout history. Asia certainly had many. E.G. I know of no human more profound than confusious. But no culture, or civilization, until you get to modern day thinking, even came close to matching the shear magnitude of the quantity, quality, sophistication and progress of the ancient greeks who had come so close to figuring out modern existential thought and inductive logic. The ancient Greeks, somehow, almost reached the critical mass necessary to free a society and individuals from a simplistic and repetitious life of a closed system of dogmatic thinking to one enriched by the infinite relativity of existential thought. It was an entire large civilization involved in constant socratic debate about every subject under the sun which concern modern man. Like deductive logic (their main strength), science, and existential topics like slavery, and democracy. Of dogma Plato said: let those who cannot understand "count beads". The advancements of modern thought made by the Greeks not only shaped almost all other cultures for the next 2,000 years, but may very well have launched them in a few decades or centuries into modern day science and ideas had the Romans not wiped out 99% of all of their writings, burned all their libraries and almost wiped all their intellectual progress from the face of the earth. And Aristotle alone, riveled all other thinkers together, in a bastardized form by western dogma for the next 2,000 years.