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To: pogohere who wrote (72060)	12/7/2007 12:41:20 AM
From: Sea Otter	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 116555

Well, there's the rocks they brought back. And the photos of the surface. And the mirrors they left there that scientists have been beaming lasers off of (to get accurate distance measurements). And the fact that 20 people said they were there, plus the thousands of engineers who said they sent them there (including an uncle of mine), who either did it or all members of a vast global conspiracy, along with friends and family. So Pogo, you've got it all backwards. There is no need to patiently wait for evidence. It's right there, mountains of it. Thus, the burden of proof lies with those who doubt the evidence, not the other way around. Show us the scientific paper that the moon rocks are fake, or the astronauts lied, or that the mirrors aren't there, that the geologists who used the mirrors lied, that the engineers lied etc etc. Take your time. We're patient. Btw, if we got a Hubble photo a of lunar site, I suspect the true believers should think it was faked as well. That's what happened with the "Face On Mars" thing. True conspiracy theorists just love their conspiracy theories. Same thing with these vaccine scares.

To: pogohere who wrote (72060)	12/7/2007 12:54:47 AM
From: Sr K	Respond to of 116555

the YouTube sketch did not have Neil Armstrong's voice, and if they had used it, then it wouldn't have matched the later, satirical portion. The L.E.M. landed and departed. The exhaust from the departure has long since settled and dissipated or spread. Even the American flag staked to some unknown depth is likely to have pulled away from that location and had a life in that atmosphere much shorter than 38 years whether staked or not. The YouTube shadows were not even close. And why was it in black & white? Edit: You may be referring to the plaque signed by Richard Nixon. A valid concern. I don't know if it was face up and how it was left, adhered, affixed, or whatever to make it last in that environment. The Chinese team will probably find it.