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To: Lou Weed who wrote (251243)	12/11/2007 6:34:40 PM
From: Sdgla	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

<There is clearly a big difference in public reaction (here in the US) to the demeaning of the Arab culture/people versus demeaning the Jewish culture/people? Why do you think it is so?> Care too provide an example of that big difference ?

To: Lou Weed who wrote (251243)	12/11/2007 7:32:34 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

The two main ethnic groups in Northern Ireland are Anglo/Saxon and Celt. True they are divided predominantly along religious lines however not exclusively. If you want to divide ethnic groups by religion you will always have crossover thereby blending the grouping. In the macro sense the ethnic grouping is white with Anglo/Saxon and Celt being the 2 subgroups. This is definitive but when religion is used as a differentiator it crosses both ethnic groups. Your assertion that religion is valid as an ethnic differentiator becomes very vague in almost all situations due to conversions of individuals from one sect to the other....race is definitive (you can't convert to a different one Lotta squirming going on here, Bobby. I seem to remember that the two sides CALL each other Protestant and Catholic a lot, no amount of weaseling about the possiblities of conversion is going to push religion to the margins in that conflict. Every single thing you say about religion is also true for political persuasion and even race - they are always people who are caught in the middle, like the products of mixed marriages, and always people who can change side. The racial definitions won't be any more pure than the cultural, religious or political ones. Doesn't mean they don't exist, but they are part of the whole package - which includes race, relgion, culture and politics. I'm not getting off this point until we have a term for what an ethnic group is, because it's no sense talking about reactions to how you talk about an ethnic group until you define what you're talking about. Race doesn't begin to cut it as a definition. Neither Jews nor Arabs are a race, for example.