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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (251253)	12/11/2007 8:49:21 PM
From: Lou Weed	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

<<Lotta squirming going on here, Bobby. I seem to remember that the two sides CALL each other Protestant and Catholic a lot, no amount of weaseling about the possibilities of conversion is going to push religion to the margins in that conflict.>> Squirming?!? Interesting you should see it that way.... Religion was never the primary reason for conflict in NI. The struggle was first and foremost about the quest for a united Ireland versus the desire to remain part of the United Kingdom. Of course if you've never been there you wouldn't understand or realize that. Religious affiliation just so happens to be a common separation of both sides by virtue of the fact that the loyalists (Protestants loyal to the crown) are totally committed to remaining part of the UK as their church leader happens to be the reigning monarch on the British throne. Catholics (or nationalists) were fighting for independence from the crown and a united Ireland. Catholics and Protestants live very happily and peacefully together in the Republic of Ireland and always have, even during the most difficult times of the troubles. Again, we digress..... "Ethnic Group" Lets go with Sociologist Max Weber's definition as I seem to come across it a lot. I presume he carries weight in the ethnicity defining arena..... "Those human groups that entertain a subjective belief in their common descent because of similarities of physical type or of customs or both, or because of memories of colonization and migration; this belief must be important for group formation; furthermore it does not matter whether an objective blood relationship exists" Ok, now we have a term.......race, culture etc. included. I'm not going to argue with Max. Back to my original question...... There is clearly a big difference in public reaction (here in the US) to the demeaning of the Arab culture/people versus demeaning the Jewish culture/people? Why do you think it is so?