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To: Lou Weed who wrote (251257)	12/11/2007 9:06:14 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Squirming?!? Interesting you should see it that way.... Religion was never the primary reason for conflict in NI. The struggle was first and foremost about the quest for a united Ireland versus the desire to remain part of the United Kingdom. Of course if you've never been there you wouldn't understand or realize that. Silly thing to say, of course everybody who knows anything about the struggle knows it was political, stemming from the different relation of the Scots immigrants to Ulster to the British Crown vs Irish. However, the struggle was couched and fortified very largely in religious terms as "Protestant vs Catholic" esp. as it stemmed from the time of the religious wars in Europe and was in large part originally caused by religious differences. I would also point out that race, the definition you liked, has nothing to do with it. Irish and Scottish are both Celts in origin. Those human groups that entertain a subjective belief in their common descent because of similarities of physical type or of customs or both, or because of memories of colonization and migration; this belief must be important for group formation; furthermore it does not matter whether an objective blood relationship exists" Okay fine. Religion can be part of customs and is often important for self-definition. As long as that is allowed, I'm fine. There is clearly a big difference in public reaction (here in the US) to the demeaning of the Arab culture/people versus demeaning the Jewish culture/people? Why do you think it is so? Please give a real-world example. Name-calling on this thread is not a useful example, nobody can waste their time dealing with the crap that gets posted on this thread. And most of the crap is from the left.