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To: Sea Otter who wrote (26440)12/14/2007 10:07:17 PM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217860
 
Sea Otter, when people first come up with ideas and theories, there aren't scientific papers to point to. They are new ideas.

You don't need a Papal Authority to think. There are facts strewn around everywhere. You don't need permission to put them together and see what they mean. You don't need to check with an official "scientist" or "lawyer" or "doctor" or other "expert" to think.

Mq's theory on CO2 and all that stuff was developed 20 years ago and remains as intact as the day it was born. You were probably still wetting your pants and hadn't heard of the Greenhouse Effect when I had it all figured out.

For example the speed of climate change was in Mq's theory. Not in geological time, but in a year or 4. But that was in the cooling cycle, which is much more problematic than a heating cycle.

You are obviously an over-excited newbie to all this. When did it become a concern to you?

Mqurice

PS: The most efficient Greenie attendee at the Bali jamboree caused heaps more CO2 hot air than I do. <But these temperature swings took a long time to establish themselves. It took place in geologic time.

What is different now is that climate is changing fast - over a period of decades. Not in geologic time, but in human time. That is what most people don't understand. And it's being driven by industrial processes.
> It's not happening fast - it has taken a century to get to 380ppm. That's not a hurry. Ice ages happen much much faster.



To: Sea Otter who wrote (26440)12/14/2007 10:19:19 PM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217860
 
It took place in geologic time.

We live in geologic time. We're little blurs against the vaster than empires and more slow backdrop of geologic time, but we're here, nevertheless. Human time and geologic time are just different ways of measuring time passing, the same time, all the same time.