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To: Lou Weed who wrote (251785)	12/20/2007 1:41:01 PM
From: Ruffian	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

when the price of gold hits 5000 an ounce.............:)

To: Lou Weed who wrote (251785)	12/20/2007 2:10:16 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

The re-construction of Soloman's temple must be in progress before the Messiah appears. The high Mullah of Rabbis can identify the Messiah based on mystical teaching of Torah and Talmud passed down through Semicha. Some claim the Messiah has been born and is currently among us. The Jewish Messiah must be a descendant of the original Messianic figure, King David of the Jews. It is interesting to note that the Messiah is expected to be a mortal person who, through his charisma, background and power, proves himself to be the actual redeemer. The Jewish Messiah is often split into two, and sometimes even three parts corresponding to the requirements stated in the Messianic Idea. Messiah needed to be spiritual and political at the same time in order to be able to achieve the Messianic hope. The Messiah ben Joseph comes first as the political and military leader. He fights Gog and Magog and falls to them in battle at which time the Messiah ben David comes to defeat the enemies of Israel, bring the Jewish people back to their land, reconcile them with God, and bring about a period of political, spiritual, and physical bliss. The original model for the Messiah was actually Moses, who led his people, the Israelites, out of Egypt and away from the tyrannical and unjust rule of Pharaoh. He was both a spiritual and political leader and had the qualities expected of the future Messiah. Many connections are made in literature and scripture between the life and actions of Moses and those of the expected Messiah, such as the gathering of the Jewish people and the return to their homeland. Although there are many similarities between Moses and Messiah, David is the true ancestor and prototype. During David's reign, it was thought that his family would continue to rule through until the end of time or God's intervention. After the collapse of his empire, a new idea emerged that a descendant of his would come to bring the Jewish people together and usher in a reign of peace. One of the aspects stressed most about the Messiah's reign is justice, stemming from the fact the Jews have suffered so much injustice in their past. The prophet Isaiah proclaimed regarding the characteristics of the Messiah: "The foundation of his throne will be justice; he will be distinguished by his zeal for justice, and finally, he will be charismatically endowed for sensing the rights and wrongs of a case and for executing justice (Encyclopedia Judaica)." For more information about the Messiah, see Historical Messiah. Judah is the tribe out of which the Messiah will come and of which David was the king. conncoll.edu