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To: Lou Weed who wrote (251846)12/21/2007 11:15:43 AM
From: Ruffian  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
bullshit, i like Lieberman.................Gore is a sellout to All Americans who like Kool-Aid...................



To: Lou Weed who wrote (251846)12/21/2007 11:16:28 AM
From: michael97123  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
"As for Gore.....the guy could cure cancer, make world peace, eliminate poverty and he'd still be a fucking loser to you because he's a stinkin' dem."

Same guy who was humping tobacco while his sister was dying from lung cancer. Same guy who came to NY in 1988 and ran for president by running against al sharpton and as a right winger? Same guy whose wife was fighting free speech in the arts. Same guy who rolls his eyes in a debate and walks up to his opponent and hovers thus giving us bush in 2000. If the asshole hadnt hovered, he would have had a clear win. Even Chris Matthews says he voted for Bush in 2000 because of this among other reasons. And irony of ironies, i still voted for him in 2000 because of doubts i had about bush intellect but my son in law the commie voted for nadir, thus giving bush the hated one the election.



To: Lou Weed who wrote (251846)12/21/2007 11:16:32 AM
From: Wharf Rat  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 281500
 
"As for Gore.....the guy could cure cancer, make world peace, eliminate poverty and he'd still be a fucking loser to you because he's a stinkin' dem."

He's not alone. A whole bunch think (oxymoron) like that.
But that could have serious consequences. Be an awful thing if he was that Messiah dude I won't recognize. There goes 4 acre feet of zin.

If God had a name, what would it be (Al?)
And would you call it to his face
If you were faced with him in all his glory
What would you ask if you had just one question

And yeah yeah God is great yeah yeah God is good
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

What if God was one of us
Just a slob like one of us
Just a Akl Gore on the bus
Trying to make his way home

If God had a face what would it look like
And would you want to see
If seeing meant that you would have to believe
In things like heaven and in jesus and the saints and all the prophets

And yeah yeah god is great yeah yeah god is good
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

What if God was one of us
Just a slob like one of us
Just a stranger on the bus
Trying to make his way home
He's trying to make his way home
Back up to heaven all alone
Nobody calling on the phone
Except for the pope maybe in rome

And yeah yeah God is great yeah yeah God is good
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

What if god was one of us
Just a slob like one of us
Just a stranger on the bus
Trying to make his way home
Just trying to make his way home
Like a holy rolling stone
Back up to heaven all alone
Just trying to make his way home
Nobody calling on the phone
Except for the pope maybe in rome

Joan Osbourne

If God Was One of Us



To: Lou Weed who wrote (251846)12/21/2007 2:27:24 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 281500
 
The Kyoto protocol is very bad for big business, petroleum in particular but its a concerted global effort to reduce emissions (of which we're now the only holdout). Are you more in favour of permitting further pollution for corporate gain or improving my atmosphere?


The US Dept of Energy has published a list of carbon emissions due to fossil fuel consumption, year by year and country by country:

census.gov

If you compare at the numbers for 1997 and 2004, and compare the signers of Kyoto with the non-signers, you notice:

Emissions worldwide increased 18.0%.
Emissions from countries that signed the treaty increased 21.1%.
Emissions from non-signers increased 10.0%.
Emissions from the U.S. increased 6.6%.

I submit you are confusing political posturing with action. Kyoto has always been used for political cover by most of its signers. Look, we're virtuous! We signed! Now leave us the f--- alone! Go yell at the big bad US!