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To: Tommaso who wrote (89828)	12/22/2007 10:18:18 PM
From: GST	Respond to of 110194

I think it is partly if not mainly just a plain old lack of awareness -- I shop, I eat, I see no problem beyond higher prices - and of course as we all know food prices are set by the Federal Reserve -- ng. Sometimes it seems people in the US are truly disconnected from awareness of the world around them. I don't mean to make light of your point -- the food situation looms large even if we look the other way.

To: Tommaso who wrote (89828)	12/23/2007 5:34:12 AM
From: MoneyPenny	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 110194

Hey Tom, I thought you might like this snippet from this month's Basic Points (BMO strategist Donald Coxe) "The classic combination of bankerly cupidity and bankerly stupidity has entered, pace Churchill, its Finest Hour. In deference to the brilliant mathematics used to construct the predicted returns for off-market models, we propose the following formula for valuing financial stocks: BC2 x BS2 = BCEOP + BB (Bankerly Cupidity squared, times Bankerly Stupidity squared makes Big CEO Payouts and Big Bailouts.)" No LOL from me on this. I have no link to offer as I receive it by email. MP

To: Tommaso who wrote (89828)	12/23/2007 11:10:49 AM
From: Haim R. Branisteanu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 110194

Tommasso- there are great advancements in agriculture in Africa and in many places they grow twice as much per hectare as in the US. Sweet Sorghum is one example. Further Africa is very rich in water resources that go unused from Senegal to Zambia in the south, just look closely to Africa's map. The main problem is lack of cultural tradition of cultivation and reliance on "gathering" including destroying forests for fire wood. Ad to this the new developments on "vertical farming" and the use of treated sewage water for protein crops for farm animals like "Duckweed" etc. and you will realize that we are very far from starvation if proper education steps will be taken and seriously from both sides- or better said ALL sides. Unfortunate politics and personal and corporate greed take center stage. Nothing can be done in Africa without paying heavy bribes and the economic and political maturity there is almost not existent as it is in many SE Asia countries. IMHO negativity (mainly laziness, ill will and greed) in the basic human nature destroys it all – how to solve this in the 21st century I do not know

To: Tommaso who wrote (89828)	12/23/2007 11:19:16 PM
From: patron_anejo_por_favor	Respond to of 110194

>>But just as "peak oil" took so long to make itself truly evident (and some people still don't buy the idea), so peak food is nearly here, and people treat it like something Alfred Hitchcock or Stephen Spielberg might have thought up-- rather than a reality.<< Or the guy who wrote Soylent Green.... (As I suspect you know).....Peak oil and peak caloric production are inextricably linked, due to the essential role of liquid fuels in food produciton (not to mention the use of NG in fertilizer or petroleum distillate-based organic chemicals in pesticide production). Same sides of the coin....