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To: Brumar89 who wrote (364714)12/29/2007 1:09:56 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1586443
 
There was a national debate over the war and your side didn't prevail in the contest of ideas.

Yeah, right. Here's your debate: "I don't think we should invade Iraq." "Shut up you anti American, Muslim loving, unpatriotic commie!" End of debate!

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Second, you must not think 911 was an attack on the US homeland because our troops involvement in Afghanistan is a direct response to that attack. Afghanistan was the base of the terror group which attacked us on 911.

Yes, it is....so why are we in Iraq?

Don't change the topic. You included Afghanistan in the far off countries we're wrongly fighting wars in.

I wasn't changing the subject. If the fighting in Afghanistan is in retaliation for 9/11, why are we in Iraq?

Trying to shift a question about AFghanistan to Iraq is changing the topic.

Why are you refusing to answer the question?

Its not germane to the Afghanistan issue. Raise Iraq separately.


I see.......you don't have an answer.
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I did support the police action in Afghanistan in order to apprehend bin Laden and bring him to trial. I oppose the ongoing wars in both Afghanistan and Iraq. These wars could easily bankrupt the country while accomplishing little.

Can you guys not see the forest for the trees?

When did the police action in Afghanistan you supported turn into the war in Afghanistan you oppose?

When GW Bush said that capturing bin Laden was no longer the prime objective.

When did he say that? Or what did he really say?


"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

"I am truly not that concerned about him."
- G.W. Bush, responding to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts,
3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02)


Can you even begin to understand the frustration people feel with this president?

ABB
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What other country do you know has a Pentagon or any military headquarters that's as big? The military is big business in the US.

No other country can match our military at present. Thats largely why the world is as free and prosperous as it is.

Much of the world is not free.....I think your imagination has run wild.

Much of the world is, especially as compared to past decades.


Brumar, let me say it does nothing for your case to add a condition when you've been called on a statement that you made previously. It very much weakens your credibility. The fact is most of the world is not free.....it may be less or more in the past 20 years but your statement is still wrong.

America's ascendance will be remembered as a brief period of peace and prosperity in world history.

Where is the peace? All we do is mostly fight someone. That isn't peace. You sound like doublespeak out of 1984.

Nevertheless the world is mostly peaceful and prosperous compared to most past periods in history.


I am totally stumped as to how you come to that conclusion. Bush has stirred up more ant hills and bee hives in the past 7 years than I care to think about. There was no war in Iraq before Bush. There was no war in Afghanistan before Bush.

And he has accomplished nothing. The Taliban and al Qaida are resurgent in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Iraq is a country in chaos. It frightens me how blind you all are to the truth. And that's not a new phenomenon.....its been going on for quite some time.