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To: American Spirit who wrote (75809)	1/11/2008 12:26:57 PM
From: stockman_scott	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

NEWS: Kucinich asks for New Hampshire recount ______________________________________________________________ Cites concerns over Internet rumors and disparity between polls, results The Associated Press updated 7:50 a.m. MT, Fri., Jan. 11, 2008 URL: msnbc.msn.com CONCORD, N.H. - Democrat Dennis Kucinich, who won less than 2 percent of the vote in the New Hampshire primary, said Thursday he wants a recount to ensure that all ballots in his party's contest were counted. The Ohio congressman cited "serious and credible reports, allegations and rumors" about the integrity of Tuesday results. Deputy Secretary of State David Scanlan said Kucinich is entitled to a statewide recount. But, under New Hampshire law, Kucinich will have to pay for it. Scanlan said he had "every confidence" the results are accurate. In a letter dated Thursday, Kucinich said he does not expect significant changes in his vote total, but wants assurance that "100 percent of the voters had 100 percent of their votes counted." Kucinich alluded to online reports alleging disparities around the state between hand-counted ballots, which tended to favor Sen. Barack Obama, and machine-counted ones that tended to favor Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton. He also noted the difference between pre-election polls, which indicated Obama would win, and Clinton's triumph by a 39 percent to 37 percent margin. Candidates who lose by 3 percentage or less are entitled to a recount for a $2,000 fee. Candidates who lose by more must pay for the full cost. Kucinich's campaign said it was sending the $2,000 fee to start the recount. Scanlon said his office had received several phone calls since Tuesday, mostly from outside the state, questioning the results. New Hampshire's voting machines are not linked in any way, which Scanlon says reduce the likelihood of tampering with results on a statewide level. Also, the results can be checked against paper ballots. "I think people from out of state don't completely understand how our process works and they compare it to the system that might exist in Florida or Ohio, where they have had serious problems," he said. "Perhaps the best thing that could happen for us is to have a recount to show the people that ... the votes that were cast on election day were accurately reflected in the results. And I have every confidence that will be the case."

To: American Spirit who wrote (75809)	1/11/2008 1:39:14 PM
From: ksuave	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 89467

Spirit -- You're completely correct, these naive politicos on SI who are so fervid in their support of Obama have become completely irrational, and they're engaging in the same political spitballing as the rightwingers. Obama is not necessarily to blame for their actions, but he may suffer for them. Obama's followers on SI don't show nearly the class that Obama (and Hillary) does. If he is elected, these guys who are so gung ho on him now are going to be the first ones to turn on him when, after he gets to Washington, when he starts playing the Washington game too. The idea that he will bring an end to partisanship makes for good campaigning but to believe it like these guys do is simply sad. They do the work for the partisans on the right. You're getting banned all over the place, Spirit, reminds me of the way candidates like Kucinich and Paul get ignored and banned. The true believers just can't stand to hear something outside their own belief system.