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To: patron_anejo_por_favor who wrote (100212)	1/15/2008 12:34:27 AM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Respond to of 306849

yeah but just remember that your capital outlay to put solar on your roof is not the same as the capital outlay that businesses or utilities pay for solar. Most of the cost of solar to go on your roof is the roof. But utilities and even that school that I just posted utilize ground based solar. Then you have 1/4 the costs of installation and sometimes less. Of course you need land which is a kicker but that is not an issue for utilities. A new utlility starting up from scratch (which we don't do much of here but are going on everywhere else in the world) has to seriously consider solar for cost reasons, in many places it is the cheapest. Having said this my family has $400 utility bills in the winter and those seem to go up every year so I am going to think very seriously about solar shortly, startup costs be damned.

To: patron_anejo_por_favor who wrote (100212)	1/15/2008 12:42:54 AM
From: MulhollandDrive	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 306849

I think prices are the biggest factor that would accelerate acceptance (of electric vehicles). patron, not just prices, but also viability.... no one wants to pay top dollar (to the tune of 35k or so) for being an early adopter of technology that may or may not be economically viable... consider my dilemma... my lease will be up in may of this year....i really want to get a hybrid, hi mileage vehicle, however.... i've been perusing craigslist and i'm seeing late model SUV's way cheap...when you factor in the initial outlay of the 'fuel efficient' models against the late model SUV's, the economy just doesnt seem to be there... basically, i thinking i want to buy 'time' time until there is a sufficient number of vehicle models (selection=price) which i assume would happen in the next 5 years... as much as it annoys me to pay top dollar for fuel, when amortized over 3 to 5 years, it seems the best solution is to buy used very cheap and use the savings to buy fuel ps... i lurve the idea of solar tiles in the SW....but i'm no 'hero' wrt that...solar makes total sense in the SW, but the initial cost of investment really has to pencil out over the life of the probable use...i suspect energy costs will have to rise considerably even from these levels to make that financially feasible