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To: Snowshoe who wrote (234955)	1/17/2008 5:50:13 AM
From: Bearcatbob	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793987

"The blocked offshore areas of California and Florida would be easier nuts to crack, because the opposition is mainly local. " The Florida one will be shown to be ludicrous when the Cubans become an oil exporter will wells near the boundary - which would in effect be producing oil from fields that might extend to US territory. The country continues to live in a "fairy tale" land of energy. And yes, as Nixon went to China some Democrat will be forced to go to the Sierra Club. If the situation was not so sad it would be hysterical. My recommendation is to enjoy leftist idiocy by buying and profiting from energy stocks. The reality is the looney left has substantially improved my financial situation. Very ironic. Hey Ralph Nader - I will light a candle for idiots like you - thanks!

To: Snowshoe who wrote (234955)	1/17/2008 11:15:19 AM
From: ManyMoose	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793987

Last time I went to California I passed some wells right across 101 from the beach, in some suburb of LA otherwise populated with entrepreneurs selling sunglasses to the beach trade. Of the US areas that are currently off limits to exploration, ANWR is the environmental crown jewel with the strongest national political opposition. So why bother beating your heads against the wall in frustration?

To: Snowshoe who wrote (234955)	1/17/2008 12:43:50 PM
From: KLP	Respond to of 793987

Perhaps we should have pictures of EVERY one of the houses, cars, etc for each of the environmentalists who pitch such a fit about getting America the energy it needs. Or we could charge them 10 times as much as everyone else for every source of energy they use.... Some people think that companies (oil drilling and pumping, car manufacturers, etc) have money galore just to spend it all on R&D for trial and error new vehicles. People also forget that every car manufacturer out there wants to have energy efficient vehicles....but the true tests come in when they test for not only energy efficient, but the new vehicle meets all of the ten kazillion EPA rules....then add in all the Ralph Nader demands too...(head rests, special seats, seat belts, shoulder belts, crash bags, baby chairs, and all the etcs there) The labor unions have demanded more and more benefits and salaries.....so the manufacturers went overseas to find cheaper ways to manufacturer the products so they could be more cost competitive.... plus have enough of the dirty word coming............PROFITS..........to actually try to develop a new energy efficient car....and maybe even a new car that uses something other than gas, or ethanol. We can ALL see that ethanol is so expensive to make, and that the price for corn for other uses (like food for humans and animals) has gone through the roof.... Yes, that was a brilliant move, that ethanol, wasn't it?

To: Snowshoe who wrote (234955)	1/17/2008 7:11:09 PM
From: greenspirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793987

Snowshoe, I disagree. Drilling in ANWR has strong support from the people of Alaska. California and Florida don't share the same level of support. Nationally, I believe polls would be evenly divided. But, that's just a guess. Political decision making has been influenced dramatically by special interest lobby groups such as the ones I identified in an earlier post. In regard to the map and its accuracy. The size of the footprint is about as accurate as you can get without knowing precisely where the oil would be found. The map came from the Alaska Department of Natural Resources, a pretty good source for things ANWR. Here's a good article from their website discussing footprint technology. anwr.org