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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (369653)2/2/2008 6:21:13 PM
From: steve harris  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1580419
 
Just saw moveon.org endorses Obama.

Let me guess, Hillary's mediamatters.com endorses Hillary?



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (369653)2/2/2008 6:27:29 PM
From: SilentZ  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1580419
 
>If you believe in liberalism, you are a liberal, aren't you?

Yes, but if you actually go out and do something about it, you're a progressive. So it's been said, anyway. The two have been conflated a lot.

>How come there are so many liberals who call themselves "progressives" these days? Are they afraid of facing the reasons why the word "liberal" has such a negative connotation? (Besides, of course, blaming Republicans ...)

It shouldn't -- even Jonah Goldberg (who wrote Liberal Fascism) says he's a "classical liberal."

It really was the Republicans who made it a dirty word; it was purposely orchestrated. But I think the stigma really is wearing off.

-Z



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (369653)2/3/2008 8:59:48 AM
From: RetiredNow  Respond to of 1580419
 
Ten,

the problem with today's Republican politics is that they have made it a mark of shame to work with Democrats. Why is that? McCain is currently being vilified because he has reached across the aisle to forge a consensus.

That is how low the Republican party has fallen, that they proclaim it is no longer acceptable to work with Democrats, believing somehow that it's not ok for Americans with different beliefs to work together for the higher purpose of solving some of America's biggest problems.

This country needs real healing and ironically the only one talking about this and is Obama.