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To: Steve Lokness who wrote (47903)	2/4/2008 2:16:34 PM
From: Katelew	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541518

I can't speak for John, but my sense of things is that all the Clinton stuff is old hat and even many on the right are tired of having it shoved in their faces, especially when they can now see the better economy that occured under Clinton and the horrendous debt under Bush. My fear is that with Obama we have to start the cycle anew.....attacks on him, leading to the breathless media buzz, leading to proof that the attacks are scurrilous, and then a new attack. Obama is fresh meat.

To: Steve Lokness who wrote (47903)	2/4/2008 2:44:05 PM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541518

Exactly, so what makes you think this will change? Unfortunately while it might be unfair to Clinton, this hatred for her does exist. The left can stand behind her for idealogical reasons - but haven't we been down that road? Greetings, Steve. My own take is that the real questions should be who could beat the Reps in November and who would make the better president. I understand the argument about the virulent, partisan politics and the desire to get beyond it. But I don't think it ends if Obama is the nominee. It's been a trademark of Rep campaigns since, at least, Lee Atwater's campaign for Bush in 88. The Dems have either simply not wanted to go down that road or were simply incompetent at it. Take your pick. So, the argument that the Dems should pick Obama because the attack dogs would go away doesn't wash for me. Nor do most arguments that based on policy arguments. For instance, Krugman's various points about health care policy contrasts are fascinating but not determinative when I come to vote. I'm voting for Obama on style grounds--can't believe I'm typing that. But I will be a completely happy camper if Clinton wins the nomination. Got an abundance of riches if you are a Dem.