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To: tejek who wrote (370051)2/5/2008 6:53:39 PM
From: TopCat  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1571924
 
"I'm in education and let me tell you...."

Didn't realize that you have graduated and gone to work...



To: tejek who wrote (370051)2/5/2008 7:23:48 PM
From: Tenchusatsu  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 1571924
 
Ted, so in short, you're saying the following:

- Teachers are underpaid and underappreciated.

- Schools have become virtual day-care centers.

- The breakdown of the family structure is causing all sorts of havoc.

- It's the GOP's fault.

Tenchusatsu



To: tejek who wrote (370051)2/5/2008 11:17:31 PM
From: SilentZ  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1571924
 
>Barack Obama gets big time what is wrong with education in this country!

....which is why he doesn't want to end No Child Left Behind...

At least The Wire is his favorite show! If he watched Season 4, he'll get it a bit...

-Z



To: tejek who wrote (370051)2/7/2008 1:58:22 AM
From: Joe NYC  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1571924
 
Ted,

I agree with some of what you say disagree with some.

The basic problem is with the philosophy of all or nothing - saving all kids or letting them all sink. This extreme form of egalitarianism is the product of NEA, which is responsible for most of the ills in schools. Of course, together with the Dem party, which is interbred with NEA.

In theory, if you lived in the most homogenous society, with all families having caring both, a caring mother and father, with narrow range of IQs, this would be a reachable goal. But it is not the reality of USA today, with rampant family breakdown, many single parent households, irresponsible parents, total lack of discipline at home, and school.

This conflict of theory and reality sets up every school to be a failure, ranging from total failure of inner cities to partial failure in rich suburbs. So school run by NEA philosophy face these questions:

Q: Can you save all the children today?
A: No.

Q: Do you want to save at least some?
A: No, all or nothing

Q: Do you want to condemn all kids to failure because some can't be saved?
A: Yes.

So the first goal of NEA (extreme egalitarianism) is met, but not at the highest level of achievement, but at the lowest level of failure.

Joe