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To: Sarmad Y. Hermiz who wrote (247624)	2/12/2008 11:40:25 AM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

"I think the EC is looking for any excuse to declare Intel's 80% market dominance illegal." Hmm. Interesting. Now it is a conspiracy theory. Is the Trilateral Commission involved?

To: Sarmad Y. Hermiz who wrote (247624)	2/12/2008 11:49:00 AM
From: pgerassi	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

Sarmad: You just want to stick your head in the snow. Looking at worst case scenarios, the picture is quite grim. At 10% of revenue for the 7 year period comes to about $20 billion. That would effectively bankrupt the company. Now they could sell a bunch of their stock to cover it, but it would be at firesale prices. Now even if they fine is 5-10% of that ($1-2 billion), it would cause an immediate crash in the stock. Not only the fine itself, but what it judged illegal, And then there is what this will means for other regulators. Asia, mostly Japan, Korea, Taiwan and China, would likely follow and so would India. It would look bad for the FTC not to follow. And then there is the biggie, AMD's lawsuit. Damages would be much higher and would be tripled as multiple acts could easily be shown, invoking RICO. As to the effects not being seen in the stock price, it is simply lag time in the stories. Most small investors won't know until they get home and it takes a few days to adjust the risk viewpoints. However when the fine is handed down, the effects would likely be quite immediate as there would no fuzziness. But you know that. All this does is to make the likelyhood of a fine much greater than before and the amount is also most likely to increase. The trouble with sticking your head in the snow is that you don't see the snowplow that's going to run you over. Around here they may not see you until after with the snow piled so high. Pete

To: Sarmad Y. Hermiz who wrote (247624)	2/12/2008 12:09:52 PM
From: jay101	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

It is a sick mentality .... Affirmative action for looser corporations. It is very serious since the EU seems to want to intimidate all the retailers who sell computers. Almost Gestapo like tactics, which will scare them into doing what the EU wants.....Affirmative action for loosing corporations, which cannot compete on technology, competitive products or pricing. It could result in FORCING retailers to display and sell AMD based computers even if they do not want to. << PARIS, Feb 12 (Reuters) - France's PPR (PRTP.PA: Quote, Profile, Research) said European Commission competition officials were searching its offices on Tuesday after the EU anti-trust authority said it had raided a number of retailers in connection with a probe into Intel. "I confirm that in the framework of an inquiry which it has opened into Intel that the (Commission's) Directorate General Competition is carrying out an inspection at the moment at the offices of PPR Purchasing," said a PPR spokeswoman. "PPR and the group's companies are concerned by this inquiry only to the extent that they sell products made by Intel, among others," she added. The PPR group includes books and electronics chain Fnac, small computer specialist retailer Surcouf and furniture retailer Conforama, which also sells electronics goods. (Reporting by Nick Antonovics) ....>> Raids will intimidate retailers to keep inventory they do not want, just to stop the threat of future "raids", where the EU will pry and probe into their books, and scare the hell out of them. Of course gvatty, pgerassi, combjelly, DRBES, and several others don't see this .... They cheer and revel when the EU uses these tactics of extortion and intimidation. It is the base mentality which espouses, "punish success and reward failure" and of course the classic addage: ......... "when all else fails, SUE!" reuters.com guardian.co.uk

To: Sarmad Y. Hermiz who wrote (247624)	2/19/2008 8:28:19 PM
From: Petz	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Sarmad, you've made the claim that the EU has been investigating Intel for 7 years and come up dry, but DRBES posted this historical summary of antitrust actions against Intel -- pcworld.idg.com.au According to it, absolutely nothing happened in Europe until this entry -- 2005 July 12: European Commission investigators raided the offices of Intel and PC manufacturers in several countries as part of an antitrust investigation. Petz