To: Dale Baker who wrote (49017 ) 2/13/2008 9:02:31 AM From: Sam Respond to of 543041 This song reprinted below was popular during the Vietnam War. People said similar things to and about the protesters--you (they) can't end it. It ended. Granted, turning a culture around is different from ending a war. But rhetoric matters. Tones matter. What is said and emphasized matters. Subtlety matters. Goals--whether or not they are actually realized--matter. For some reason, I have a strong preference for someone who exaggerates by saying that we can end all the partisan bickering to someone who exaggerates by saying we'll be in Iraq for 100 years. [Note: This is being said more to the posters you are replying to than to you.] The Great Mandala So I told him that he'd better shut his mouth And do his job like a man. And he answered "Listen, Father, I will never kill another." He thinks he's better than his brother that died What the hell does he think he's doing To his father who brought him up right? [Chorus:] Take your place on The Great Mandala As it moves through your brief moment of time. Win or lose now you must choose now And if you lose you're only losing your life. Tell the jailer not to bother With his meal of bread and water today. He is fasting 'til the killing's over He's a martyr, he thinks he's a prophet. But he's a coward, he's just playing a game He can't do it, he can't change it It's been going on for ten thousand years [Chorus] Tell the people they are safe now Hunger stopped him, he lies still in his cell. Death has gagged his accusations We are free now, we can kill now, We can hate now, now we can end the world We're not guilty, he was crazy And it's been going on for ten thousand years! Take your place on The Great Mandala As it moves through your brief moment of time. Win or lose now you must choose now And if you lose you've only wasted your life.