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To: TimF who wrote (49036)	2/13/2008 11:41:13 AM
From: Sam	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 543056

Well, just a quick response to that small business owner. First, no raise in the minimum would occur all at once, especially one that large. Even smaller increases are phased in over a period of years. Second, I am quite certain that Congress won't pass anything that large without exempting any number of businesses, including those who employ less than "xx" number people, taking care of a large number of small businesses right there. Third, it plausibly would put some businesses out of business--but that happens all the time as a consequence of free trade, with business moving to Asia, the Caribbean, central America etc., without the people who will undoubtedly oppose this increase (e.g., Nat'l Ass of Manufacturers, Chamber of Commerce, etc) uttering a peep other than, sorry, can't compete giving these wages and benefits. I'm sure there's more, but don't have enough time right now to think of it.

To: TimF who wrote (49036)	2/13/2008 12:27:34 PM
From: Bearcatbob	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 543056

Tim, One of the constant characteristics of the left is that they have a presupposition of wealth and that taking that wealth for their causes will not change the wealth. It is constant in their arguments. It is a naive concept. I think Obama is very naive. Hillary on the other hand IMO knows better - but spouts the needed line to get elected. Which is worse? A McCain Obama contest would be interesting. Perhaps a great strength of McCain is that he can state his positions without being construed as a mouth piece of the "great right wing conspiracy". He will have credibility.