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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (29420)	2/14/2008 2:02:14 AM
From: RJA_	Respond to of 218919

>>BS, everyone is free to vote for Ron Paul, but they prefer the glib cliches of "at least we'll make a difference" from Obama. I'm not sure what folks are thinking... I actually ran a Democratic caucus here in CO... In spite of my appeal based on the currency and economy our vote was 13 Obama, 7 Hillary. I dont think one vote was changed. The degree if economic illiteracy is breath taking, and IMHO will be very costly... I support RP but, also think Bill (as a mainstream pol) did a reasonably good job Economy wise during his time. Obama is an unknown. His campaign style gives me the creeps. No "there" there in his speaches. No content. He did however, vote against telecom immunity.

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (29420)	2/14/2008 3:27:07 AM
From: Elroy Jetson	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 218919

What you meant to say is that every "Republican" is free to vote for Ron Paul. This is a different situation from Ross Perot or Ralph Nader who chose to run as Independents that every voter could vote for. Republicans in particular are not the least bit interested in what Ron Paul is selling - fewer wars, minding your own business, balanced budgets, and a less authoritarian government. On the Democratic side, Barrack Obama has been pushed forward by senior Democratic party regulars who for various reasons wanted a "not Hillary Clinton" candidate. As an example, one of the original major Obama contributors was Phil Angelides, the recent Lieutenant Governor of California, billionaire real estate developer, and competitor to Schwarzenegger for the Governor's chair. There was a great desire to find a more centrist candidate than Clinton. It remains to be seen which of the two win their party's nomination. Curiously, the same situation has developed spontaneously on the Republican side, in the choice of John McCain. He's without question a more centrist candidate than other Republicans. Yet his desire to remain in Iraq "for a hundred years" makes him more palatable to Republicans than Ron Paul's pacifism. The majority of Republican voters have swung back to the pre-Reagan Republican values represented by people like General Dwight D. Eisenhower. The Reagan segment of the Republican party is furious. Yet, what hasn't sunk in for them is, they now represent a small minority of the Republican party. Post-Reagan, the Republican party had gained membership by pushing Reagan's agenda: a.) "mo free money, where's my free money", which could allegedly be created with massive amounts of new debt, in combination with fantasy-based economics, and; b.) a return to a mythical perfect time, described so eloquently by Reagan in the religious metaphor of a return to being "that shining city on the hill" - reminiscent of Hitler's speeches evoking the romantic and mythical idyll of Germany's past before it was "corrupted by the Jews" and other "different people". One of the problems independents face is, being personality types who think independently, they don't pay much attention to the surface cues that the sheep expect to see in "The Leader" which people like Winston Churchill, FDR and George Washington were so careful to cultivate. When the Continental Congress met to devise their strategy for the American Revolutionary War, George Washington arrived at every meeting wearing a "General's uniform" of his own design. Normal people simply don't behave like this. It's almost pathological behavior, yet it has its effect. I'd like to think that George Washington was chosen to be General of the Continental Army in spite of this behavior, but people are often chosen because of this bizarre behavior. It's like a stage actor who becomes popular through exaggerated over-acting, eventually "becoming their created public persona" like the deranged Norma Desmond, or Ronald Reagan. .