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To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (105062)2/14/2008 2:11:40 PM
From: Giordano BrunoRead Replies (2) | Respond to of 306849
 
How timely...Bush To Veto Waterboarding Ban

2/14/2008 2:08:59 PM President Bush plans to veto Senate-approved legislation that would bar the CIA from using such harsh interrogation methods as waterboarding, the White House said Thursday.

“The president will veto that bill,” said Press Secretary Dana Perino. “The United States needs the ability to interrogate effectively, within the law, captured al-Qaeda terrorists.”

On Wednesday, the Senate voted 51-45 to approve a bill that would require the Central Intelligence Agency to follow provisions of the U.S. Army Field Manual, which forbids waterboarding and other coercive interrogation methods but allows for 19 other interrogation methods.

The Senate vote follows a similar vote in the House in December. The measure did not clear the Senate by a veto-proof two-thirds majority.

Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y. said that if Bush vetoes the bill, “he will be voting in favor of waterboarding,” a technique opposed by the top U.S. commander in Iraq, Army Gen. David Petraeus and FBI Director Robert Mueller.

“If it's good enough for General Petraeus and FBI Director Robert Mueller, it's good enough for all of America,” Schumer said.

In debate, Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., said the use of harsh interrogation methods would harm U.S. forces in the end.

“Retaliation is the way of the world. What we do to others, they will do to us — but worse,” Rockefeller said. “This debate is about more than legality. It is also about morality, the way we see ourselves.”

Perino reiterated Thursday that the United States does not currently use waterboarding, or simulated drowning.

“The president does not favor torture. The president favors making sure we do all these programs within the law,” Perino said.

She added, “All the interrogations that have taken place in this country have been done in a legal way.”




To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (105062)2/14/2008 5:05:56 PM
From: Jim McMannisRespond to of 306849
 
RE:"Jim, you come off as a real Bush apologist, you are the classic "they're all rotten" excuse for Bush. I wonder if you know you are doing it."

Right, that's why I support Obama.



To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (105062)2/14/2008 5:11:28 PM
From: Jim McMannisRead Replies (2) | Respond to of 306849
 
RE:"Bush is the problem not anybody else, accept it!"

Well, that settles it then. All Bushes fault. No one was greedy but Bush.