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To: Dale Baker who wrote (52619)	3/9/2008 11:59:02 AM
From: epicure	Respond to of 542940

Well, it's not over yet. Anything could happen- still. It's going to be a stunner. Heck- Gore could still step in. We know 51% like him, right? :-)

To: Dale Baker who wrote (52619)	3/9/2008 12:07:30 PM
From: wonk	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 542940

McCain won't win. All this arguing on the Dem side is only going to reduce the height of the wave. Heck, the Rs just lost Hastert's seat after going negative and spending 1/3rd of their available cash to boot. If we get to September w/o at least one major bank failure, maybe it will be closer. FDR in 1932 won only 57% of the popular vote.

To: Dale Baker who wrote (52619)	3/9/2008 12:16:58 PM
From: NAG1	Respond to of 542940

Dale, Are you conceding the actual election already? It does seem a bit early for that, doesn't it? All because Obama is undergoing some more scrutiny before he actually gets the nomination? McCain and Obama will still be the same candidates running on the same ideas as they have been running on. When it is a real(not hypothetical) head to head race, that is when it will be interesting to see what the polls look like. A good part of what happens in the general election will not be related to anything that has gone on in the primaries but will instead be more on what is actually happening in the economy and Iraq. And a lot of what happens is in the hands of the terrorists in Iraq. If they think about doing this(and if they actually can control what is going on to a large degree there), if they want McCain, they will lay low until the election making it look like the surge and the present policy is working(and Bush will do everything to make it look like things are going well over there-whether they are or not). If they would rather have Obama, if they can mount an offensive before the election, we will see a big uptick in violence right before the election to make McCain look bad. Neal

To: Dale Baker who wrote (52619)	3/9/2008 12:24:24 PM
From: quehubo	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 542940

Contrary to one of the posts earlier, Obama is telling people what they want to hear, not what they need to hear. He is promising everything and not saying what will be required of the citizens. So he is more of the same on the essentials. Sure he maintains civility better and is an eloquent speaker. But I would trust Hillary's leadership dealing with our enemies over Obama's. The country is going the wrong direction because the voters still think they can have it all and not pay for it. Someone else will do the heavy lifting.

To: Dale Baker who wrote (52619)	3/9/2008 2:00:00 PM
From: Katelew	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542940

could easily win 51-52% of the vote You keep stating variations of this as important, and I feel I must missing something. So let's assume an Obama candidate would win with a larger percentage of the popular vote, what does that mean? How does that play out, if the composition of Congress stays the same and thus the gridlock stays the same?