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To: cnyndwllr who wrote (52918)3/10/2008 10:26:36 PM
From: Dale Baker  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 543273
 

Will she subvert the will of the voters? Will she turn Denver into a series of shady back-room deals and arm twisting? Will she dispatch her husband to pressure superdelegates into switching allegiances at the last minute? Are we in for, as one pundit put it, a good ol' fashioned "knife fight?"


And after that happens in August, McCain takes his now-united party to an early September convention, gets the last bounce and goes into the fall campaign with a 5-10 point lead that he probably doesn't give up through November.

Rah rah rah.



To: cnyndwllr who wrote (52918)3/10/2008 11:25:46 PM
From: Katelew  Respond to of 543273
 
Thanks, Ed, actually I already read this. None of these pieces change my own opinion about her strengths and weaknesses but I do agree with you that I don't think this campaign is going to end well.

I had no idea how much the Clintons were generically disliked among democrats....the voters, I mean, not neccessarily their political peers although I'm sure they have enemies. As I'm seeing how deep it runs, with what suspicion she's viewed as far as her character goes, and how unrelenting the pundits are, I think her nomination would probably peel off too many voters to get her the election. In other words, I now see her Achilles heel as democrats themselves, and not the right-wingers.

I'm troubled by the way several of Obamas superdelegates are now joining in on the character assassination of Hillary. I think this is uglier and more hurtful to the party. Everyone assumes two candidates will barb with each other as they jockey for a position of advantage and make-up later, at least that's my sense of things.

If Obama gets it, he'll be shredded on the Rezko deal as well as his inexperience. He won't have Hillary on the ticket. It doesn't make sense for either of them. He could lose some of her supporters, especially women, who have been offended by the attitudes on MSNBC and elsewhere. And the Rezko attacks from the right-wing could peel off some of his idealistic voters and keep the Republican cross-overs away.

But I don't like at all what I'm starting to see. The Rs could indeed take this election.