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To: Eric L who wrote (75462)	3/13/2008 2:32:44 PM
From: ihavenoidea	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 197227

so what. assuming everything you say is true (and that's a stretch)we've moved on from the 1992 patents. we are talking about the qcom patents for wcdma that are needed by nokia which are applicable now; and the rates should go up, big time -not down. brcm was entitled to 6% for their periphery patents. qcom is now entitled for an increase from the generally acknowledged 4% to at least 6%; probably more comparably. I'm glad to see qcom stand up for what they deserve.After all nokia isn't in Germany where Nokia can take the subsidies and leave town leaving thousands of jobs behind. even the european commission (Whoooaaa Nellie!) is starting to question Nokia's high-handed ways. i.

To: Eric L who wrote (75462)	3/13/2008 3:33:24 PM
From: planetsurf	Respond to of 197227

Right -- SO NOK has a choice, either enter an already established FRANDly agreement to license the remaining/new patents NOT specifically expired for say ~3% OR pick and choose the ones they want at the new BRCM established rate of $1 each ($6 for 6 patents). Guess what, prices go up not down. Inflation baby. NOK used to pay ~3% for 1000 patents, now they pay ~3% for 800.

To: Eric L who wrote (75462)	3/13/2008 4:36:49 PM
From: queuecom	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 197227

Eric: If these "essential" CDMA patents have now expired then Nokia has been nothing if not short of brilliant. They have built up an enormous number of patents since 2001 which probably match Qualcomm's patent portfolio. Thus, the Q's stranglehold on CDMA is far less on WCDMA and TD-SCDMA. If Qualcomm needs Nokias patents for WCDMA then Qualcomm can expect a small royalty at most. And what about the extension option. If Nokia exercised then they owe at the 4% level till some unknown (to us) year (maybe 2017 like all the other licencees). We win big time. Although some on the Board argue that 4% is too low. If the Judge rules that they didn't extend then they say they're sorry and pay a penalty and then negotiate a new FRANDly contract at some small royalty. The latter decision would make Qualcomm's 140 or so licencees who are committed thru 2017 mighty bitter. I don't know what would happen then to Qualcomm. Queuecom

To: Eric L who wrote (75462)	3/13/2008 5:37:30 PM
From: ggamer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 197227

<Nokia's Fully Paid Up License for Early QUALCOMM CDMA Patents> Good detailed response. So now it makes a lot of sense to me why 3G implementation was delayed until 2007. The world had to wait because Nokia did not want to pay royalty to QCOM. However, looking at the big picture, if Nokia ends up using one of QCOM's patents that is not paid up, then QCOM should be able to charge 6% royalty just like BRCM has been able to charge for a couple of their stupid patents. Otherwise they are more than welcome to work on some workarounds. Do you agree? Do we need a Mr. Lee type of a lawyer to join the QCOM legal team to get it done?

To: Eric L who wrote (75462)	3/14/2008 10:23:48 AM
From: Dash of Reality	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 197227

general technology areas from the late 80's - early 90's" that should give us all a big hint as to what QUALCOMM "fundamental" patents in what patent families, in fact, are fully paid up ... Aren't these fully paid up anyway because QCOM's Intellectual Property Rights have expired..... If these are the fully paid patents that Nokia is referring to, this isn't specific to just Nokia, they are fully paid to all whose wish to use them, however, it is my understanding that there other essential patents that have not expired associated with WCDMA. DoR