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To: Knighty Tin who wrote (112318)3/18/2008 6:35:20 PM
From: longnshort  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 132070
 
Two days ago Obama said he wasn't in the church to hear the words of Wright, today he said he was in the church. Typical politician. No change with him, just the same old shit



To: Knighty Tin who wrote (112318)3/18/2008 7:14:59 PM
From: Broken_Clock  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 132070
 
I read the initial statements in question from his pastor and really didn't see anything that outrageous. Now, if Rush or Sharpton was his friend I would be worried. -g-



To: Knighty Tin who wrote (112318)3/19/2008 12:25:30 PM
From: Freedom Fighter  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 132070
 
KT,

I think this whole thing with Obama's pastor is probably wildly overblown. IMO, it demonstrate poor "political" judgement on his part because it should have been obvious to him that some people would use that relationship against him. But that's about it.

I haven't heard everything the pastor said, but I say worse things than "God Damn America" on a regular basis and none of my friends are abandoning me. That's because I can make a pretty good list of things the U.S has done recently and historically to be quite angry about and I would like the country to improve itself.

I also think he's 100% correct that on 9/11 "the chickens came home to roost".

The problem with that quote is that most Americans are too freaking retarded to understand that saying that "the chickens came home to roost" is not the same as saying "we deserved it", the "terrorist were justified", "they were right and we were wrong", "we are evil" etc...

Obviously, the terrorists were evil to take innocent life and do what they did, but we also need to understand that poor foreign policy motivates crazy people to do crazy things to us. It's very easy to find faults in US foreign policy in the Middle East that motivated the crazies to do what they did. That's all he meant.

Guys like Hannity are dumber than a rock on this kind of thing. In their world, it's impossible to criticize America for anything.

The only thing I heard that sounded off the wall were his comments about aids being a home grown effort to get rid of blacks and gays (or whatever the actual quote was along those lines). However, that is actually something that a lot of blacks believe. I heard Spike Lee say the very same thing on Charlie Rose a few years back. It's a matter of ignorance or paranoia that has some basis in reality because blacks were used in various disease related experiments by the government historically.

If I were Obama I'd tell them all the "F" themselves. Then again I don't want to be president. ;-)