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To: epicure who wrote (55018)	3/21/2008 7:21:37 PM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542143

I think I see what Lane is saying on this. I just finished posting about the difference between understanding and apologizing, so have been thinking about it. It sounded to me as if John was saying that Rev. WRight's horrible statements needed to be taken against the whole of his good works and words, and were ameliorated by them, while Duke has no redeeming value. He may not have been saying this, but that's how I read it. That seems to me to be apologist in nature, as if it offers understanding PLUS a sense of forgiveness. IMO, these kinds of statements need to be treated as the poison they are, even if you do understand them. What the understanding does is help you deal with the behavior rationally and clearly, but not emotionally.

To: epicure who wrote (55018)	3/21/2008 7:33:50 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542143

unless you are simply using the broadest definition meaning to lead in the wrong way Yes. The tack of his cohort is a mistake, IMO. Is it possible you're confusing people who explain this phenomenon with people who would be apologists for it? Maybe you can show me an apologist I appreciate the difficulty of the differentiation in the context of message boards. And I appreciate your attention to the importance of making it. Rambi, for example, was taken for an apologist when she was not. Conversely, when someone repeatedly insists that the context cannot be differentiated from the act, particularly to someone who has long since internalized the explanation, that's not mere explanation. And you might be talking to the black community. You are on the internet. You don't know who might read your posts. In that case, hopefully they have the critical reading skills to recognize that I'm in their corner.