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To: Lane3 who wrote (55266)3/22/2008 10:49:55 AM
From: Dale Baker  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 542182
 
Gotta love it, though.

Disagree. No one has to love anything if they choose not to. You can be loyal and devoted to your country without loving it or having a huge swelling pride in it. I have met lots of people in other countries who feel exactly like that about their countries. Their cultures don't mandate national cheerleading like ours does.

I am a bit surprised to hear this from a libertarian. I have to obey and conform to the rules of the country and society I live in. But I will decide what I like, love, adore, respect, etc. for myself, thank you very much.



To: Lane3 who wrote (55266)3/22/2008 2:30:56 PM
From: Cogito  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 542182
 
>>It isn't, IMO. But if the "really" is there, the lockstep isn't an issue or at least not the same issue.

I didn't realize there was a discrepancy. That's very curious.<<

Karen -

I just did a little search, and found three differing video tapes of Michelle giving that speech in Madison, Wisconsin. Two of them differ because the "really" is there in one of them, while in the second it is inartfully removed. Her lips still move, the sound drops out for a moment.

The third tape shows clips from two speeches. The first was delivered in Milwaukee, earlier the same day, and the second is the one many of us have already seen from Madison. In Milwaukee, Michelle actually does drop the "really."

Now does that one word really make such a big difference?

I don't understand why it's so terrible to not have been proud of this country at one point, and to now be proud.

- Allen