To: Brumar89 who wrote (374996 ) 3/25/2008 9:09:01 AM From: Elroy Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575354 and has indicated that the main thing he got out of the church in question was your normal Sunday "help thy neighbor" service. When did he say that? On some news show I saw. Do you think his opinion of what he generally heard in church is otherwise, and if so why?If you want to use Wright's inflammatory speech to indicate we shouldn't vote for Obama for President, you must somehow tie Wright's sermons to Obama. Really? How about if I quote liberals comparing the church Obama belonged to for 20 years and is raising his children in to the Aryan Nations? How about if I question why he'd expose his young children to a hate-filled congregation that leaped to its feet to cheer "God damn America, God damn America, God damn America" shouted from the pulpit? Who cares what these mysterious "liberals" have to say about things? You are trying to make a statement about Obama's presidency (aren't you??), not argue with some mysterious unnamed liberals. As for exposing his children to hate speech in the church, again, what I've heard him say is the majority of the time what he heard in church was your normal 'love thy neighbor' stuff, so that (one presumes) is what he thought he was exposing his children to. If you think he's lying, please explain why.I think liberals are effectively calling Obama a liar when they defend the statements he condemned. I think you are arguing an unimportant point with no one. The issue in the Wright hate speech as it relates to Obama is whether it lessens Obama's qualification to be President of the US. Who cares what crazy liberals think, not us here on Ted's thread!and he has indicated his takeaway from the church (and therefore from Wright) was "help thy neighbor". You're putting words in his mouth there. No, I heard him say that on some TV interview. I don't even watch that much news, but that's one of the things I heard him say about this topic.