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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (260203)3/26/2008 9:07:35 PM
From: Sun Tzu  Respond to of 281500
 
>> someone who has tried with all his might to avoid the tough choices

It seems like a very smart and mature thing to do. Often times people cannot think out of the box for ways that they won't have to face the pain, other times they fret over what boils down to unimportant matters. The smart and mature thing to do is to avoid the tough choices if you don't have to. The key is knowing when you do and when you don't have to make the choices, and I've seen nothing that says Obama is unable to make the tough choices when he has to.

>> Do you really want a newbie politician for President of the United States?

Can he possibly be worse than GW? I suppose you could use W as an example of what can happen when an unexperienced politician is at the helm, but the differences in their personal lives could not be greater and that does make a great difference.



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (260203)3/26/2008 9:20:21 PM
From: Katelew  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 281500
 
Sigh......I really want to be out of Iraq and tending to our budget deficits.



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (260203)3/26/2008 10:15:11 PM
From: bentway  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
"Do you really want a newbie politician for President of the United States?"

If the choice is Obama or McSame, hell yes!



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (260203)3/27/2008 10:21:37 PM
From: Sun Tzu  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
This is a very good read, especially if you are interested in "someone who has tried with all his might to avoid the tough choices" atimes.com Here is a small passage:

"Transforming the Middle East," in Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice's words, "is the only guarantee that it will no longer produce ideologies of hatred that lead men to fly airplanes into buildings in New York and Washington."

The latter perception - that terrorism as it struck the United States arose from political factors and that it could only be confronted and defeated with a political response - strikes me as incontestable. The problem the administration faced, or rather didn't want to face, was that the calcified order that lay at the root of the problem was the very order that, for nearly six decades, had been shaped, shepherded and sustained by the United States.

We see an explicit acknowledgment of this in the "Bletchley II" report drafted after 9/11 at Defense Department urging by a number of intellectuals close to the administration: "The general analysis," one of its authors told the Washington Post's Bob Woodward, "was that Egypt and Saudi Arabia, where most of the hijackers came from, were the key, but the problems there are intractable. Iran is more important ... But Iran was similarly difficult to envision dealing with. But Saddam Hussein was different, weaker, more vulnerable ..."