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To: i-node who wrote (376168)	4/4/2008 2:11:36 AM
From: SilentZ	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576179

>It has now been 7 years, and it is inarguable that Bush's policy has kept us from being hit again. I don't believe the American people are so stupid as to not realize this simple fact. I've argued with some smart people who believe we are not safer today as a result of Bush's presidency; but you cannot argue with the fact that we haven't been hit again. It was eight years between the WTC bombings of 1993 and 2001. The truth is that we don't get hit a lot in general. -Z

To: i-node who wrote (376168)	4/4/2008 1:11:00 PM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1576179

"To be fair, you fought hard to keep those keys even though you had lost a fair-and-square election." Fair and square? Y'all rioted to shut down a recount. Y'all got the Supreme Court to over-ride a state on something the state has authority over. And the Supreme Court knew they were over-stepping bounds which is why they tried to limit the decision to that election only. "We won the election because the American people were sick of Democrats running the country into the ground." Yawn. A functioning economy. Global respect. Oil at in the $20 per barrel. Declining national debt. Improving balance of trade. If that is running into the ground, we need more of it. We are facing a tremendous economic meltdown, possibly the worst ever. Because what few regulations existed were not enforced, we have absolutely no idea how bad things are. We might be lucky and we are only heading into the worst recession since the Great Depression. Or we might be heading towards something that makes the Great Depression look like the 1990 recession. Fact of the matter is we just don't know. "This is simply not true. If one compares this administration with the last Democrat administration, there is no comparison -- Bush has been squeaky clean," We have lurched from one crisis to another. This administration has appointed and hired people based on their loyalty to Bush, with no regard as to whether or not they have the slightest clue what the job entails. As a direct result, those crises that weren't caused by their incompetence were made worse by it. So frakking what if Bill got a blow job? His people weren't looting the Treasury and taking everything that wasn't nailed down. Your guys did. "Bush clearly made some mistakes in execution of the war." Like starting it in the first place. He never made the case for that war at that time. He lied about it from day one. Those few military people who pointed out that the basic assumptions were wrong, were hounded into retirement. Those with noses of brown were promoted. "You may answer it Yes, but I don't know of many smart people who can." Right. But you have proven you don't know many smart people. Saddam was not a particularly nice person. But he was no direct threat to us. Now, I suppose you can argue that we have an obligation to take down all of the not so nice governments... But that is a big job. McCain seems to feel that way, by the way. "It has now been 7 years, and it is inarguable that Bush's policy has kept us from being hit again" How often do we get hit? During the 1970s and 1980s when Europe got intimately acquainted with terrorism, all we had were abortion clinic bombings and Mormons blowing up each others churches. Now there really isn't any reason to believe that those terrorists wouldn't have loved to operate in the US. But they never got a chance. Ever wonder about that? As the Europeans learned, good police work goes a long way. It doesn't involve water-boarding or invading small countries. It doesn't involve going on TV and telling the terrorists to "bring it on". It doesn't involve prancing around in a flight suit and pretending you flew the plane. It does involve taking the PDBs seriously. It does involve talking with and interacting with other countries. It involves real leadership, not some adolescent fantasy about what leadership entails.