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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (260764)	4/5/2008 1:33:49 AM
From: c.hinton	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Nadine you are behind the times...."climate change" is now the topic du jour. global warming is an out of date misnomer .

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (260764)	4/5/2008 7:43:44 AM
From: Win Smith	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

That article required some extreme "objective" editing, didn't it, Nadine? I don't even think it's particularly "intellectually honest" to claim the "prompting" thing, since I highly doubt any of the "global warming stopped in 1998" crowd admitted to any possibility of global warming in the 1998 time frame either. Couple Charts and Graphs: en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org If you look at the second one, it appears that every year after 1995 is warmer than 1995 and every year before. E.g. the last 10 years on that graph are the warmest 10 years on record. Claiming that the 1998 spike means global warming has stopped is good conservative "science", no doubt, but pretty dubious reasoning outside the "facts and logic" regime that rules in LindyBill's Church of W.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (260764)	4/12/2008 6:52:56 AM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

"Even the BBC now admits that global warming is a "theory" " Of course it's a theory. So is gravity. So is evolution. So is germ theory of disease. So is atomic theory, as is relativity. And, and, as with those other theories, the data and the observations are consistent with the theory. Unfortunately, unlike the others, this is a theory we can only test once. Too bad there aren't a few really close moons with atmospheres we can play around with. Asi es la vida. New cracks suggest largest remaining Arctic ice shelf destined to disappear BOB WEBER The Canadian Press April 11, 2008 at 2:16 PM EDT WARD HUNT ISLAND, Nunavut — New cracks in the largest remaining Arctic ice shelf suggest another polar landmark seems destined to break up and disappear. Scientists discovered the extensive new cracks in the Ward Hunt Ice Shelf earlier this year and a patrol of Canadian Rangers got an up-close look at them last week. “The map of Canada has changed,” said Derek Mueller of Trent University, who was amazed to find how quickly the shelf has deteriorated since he discovered the first crack in 2002. “These changes are happening in concert with other indicators of climate change.” theglobeandmail.com === Warming Trends Rise In Large Ocean Areas – Study -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- VIETNAM: April 10, 2008 HANOI - Warming trends in a third of the world's large ocean regions are two to four times greater than previously reported averages, increasing the risk to marine life and fisheries, a UN-backed environmental study said... ...The report said that in 18 of the 64 regions, "the accelerated warming trends are 2-4 times greater than the average trends reported in 2007 by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change". ... planetark.org