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To: KLP who wrote (27472)4/5/2008 4:52:07 AM
From: DuckTapeSunroof  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 71588
 
Re: "So, you would NOT have paid attention to the Generals in the field, right? If you didn't do that, how would you know as POTUS, how many you would need?"

That's easy!

Pre-war the Pentagon called for a much LARGER troop commitment then Rummie wanted.

(Not for the invasion so much - they came to agree in the end with most of his arguments for 'light and swift' to actually topple Saddam's forces... but, for the OCCUPATION. They very *clearly* expressed their professional opinions about the need for a much larger force of boots on the ground to hold and occupy this foreign nation of some 30 million people.)

So, RMF would have been *paying attention* to the Generals... (not the other way around. :-)



To: KLP who wrote (27472)4/7/2008 1:33:12 AM
From: RMF  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 71588
 
"Were you going to run the war from your office?"

HELL, YES...I would have at least understood the repercussions of failure and I would have MADE SURE that if we were going to WAR we would do so in the most PREPARED way possible. After Shinseky gave his testimony about needing many more troops to "occupy" Iraq I would have called him in along with ALL the other Generals and gotten the "best case" and "worst case" scenarios that all of them had to offer. Rumsfeld would have been working FOR ME and not the other way around. If Bush had been President during the Civil War, McClellan would have spent 1861, 1862, 1863 and 1864 "drilling his troops" and there would have been a DIFFERENT President elected in 1864.

"Saddam's OWN Republican Guard?"

LOL....NOBODY wanted to keep the "Republican Guard" guys around. They were only a small percentage of the troops. Garner and the others wanted to keep the "regular army" together after vetting for the guys that were diehard Saddam people. The U.S. Military guys had already made inroads to accomplishing that and then Bremer came in and just DID HIS OWN thing without even the Moron Rumsfeld or the Morons in the Whitehouse even knowing WHAT was going on.

"there will be books done on this administration"

There ARE books already done on this Administration's handling of the Iraq fiasco. One of them is actually named "FIASCO" I believe. Did you ever see the "Frontline" piece on the Iraq War? Even if Iraq turns out to be a "wonderful democratic tourist spot" in the next 20 or 30 years it will STILL be the most BOTCHED War in the HISTORY of our Nation.



To: KLP who wrote (27472)4/7/2008 10:05:29 AM
From: Peter Dierks  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 71588
 
FWIW I was inspired by RMFs post. I reviewed posts from 2004 that contained the word "Iraq". Most of it was BDS spew in a flurry prior to the 2004 election. There were offensive posts and others that repeated democrat talking lies. There were a few that criticized the Administration for the number of troops.