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To: Peter V who wrote (77301)4/5/2008 9:57:23 PM
From: The Vet  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116555
 
An interesting diesel story comes from Linc Energy a small Aussie company who are making diesel fuel directly from underground gasification of stranded coal deposits using CTL (coal to liquids) technology, but they skip having to actually mine the coal first!

Apart from the demo plant they are presently commissioning in Australia they have potential deals in Vietnam and own a controlling interest in a long running underground gasification to power company in Uzbekistan.

There are evidently thousands of known underground coal deposits which are too deep or to isolated to mine economically by traditional methods, which in situ underground gasification techniques can tap, and the gas produced can be converted by existing technology to clean diesel ready to put into your tanks without further refining.

It's an interesting and quickly moving energy story.

lincenergy.com.au

Listed as LNC.ASX on the Aussie market and as a relatively new ADR on the pinks as LNCGY (1 ADR share = 10 LNC.ASX shares. Trades well on the ASX, but the ADR is illiquid in the US as it is virtually unknown.

Disclosure.. I own a few of these bought around a year ago on the ASX.



To: Peter V who wrote (77301)4/5/2008 11:54:51 PM
From: koan  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116555
 
Thanks Peter. I guess I just do not understand how diesel relates to gas.

My guess is that we have reached peak oil and the only practical alternative, in the short run, is using coal to make oil, ng and of course gas and other products.

Isn't it cheaper and easier to make diesal and can't you use a lower qualtiy oil to make diesal? One of my trader buddies mentioned something about clean diesel hybirds I think, but I just do not understand enough about how engines work to know what he is talking about?

Why not just produce diesel instead of gas if it is cheaper to make, uses lower grade oil and sells for a higher price?



To: Peter V who wrote (77301)4/6/2008 8:08:34 AM
From: Moominoid  Respond to of 116555
 
Diesel's more expensive here in Aus too. In Europe taxes on gasoline are higher than on diesel as diesel was seen as an industrial input and gasoline a luxury good for private transport. So that is one reason why consumers then switched to using diesel defeating the whole idea behind the price differential.