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To: RMF who wrote (376776)	4/7/2008 11:17:35 AM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1576904

"WE are "supposed" to be the LEADER of the Western Nations, but we have been acting like we are an ignorant adversary rather than a partner." Precisely. Unfortunately, Smirk and his merry band of pirates have an odd view of what a partnership is. It is like when they negotiate with Congress... ---------------------------------------------------------------- Bush: Ok Nanc and Howie, I know we can deal here. I feel good about this, like when I was conning, umm, persuading Arlington to build that stadium. Made a bundle off that deal. Congress: We are glad to be here. Bush: Here is my list of requirements. I will veto the bill if all of them aren't on it. And I will crank up the machinery to show how y'all are weak on terrorism. Sounds of crickets chirping... Congress: Wait, I thought we were supposed to compromise here. You know, we get something and you get something. So, what do we get? Bush: You know. Just load it up with pork. I won't mind. Now, I might make some comments about out of control spending and how Congress can't maintain discipline and is weak on terrorism. But, that is just politics. You have to cater to your base, you know that. Sounds of crickets chirping... Congress: Umm, we need to discuss this. Bush: Understand. But make it snappy. I've put almost a half an hour into this and it is eating into my workout time. All work and no play makes Jack a, uh, wuss, you know? ----------------------------------------------------------------

To: RMF who wrote (376776)	4/13/2008 1:46:28 PM
From: Rarebird	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576904

<<The next President has to go to the Europeans and say "We're sorry that the last IDIOT got all of us into this mess, but we need to work together to extricate ourselves." He/She has to tell them that we will NOT unilaterally decide who should be in NATO and which countries we will "unilaterally" put missile defense systems into.>> President Bush went too far in trying to get Ukraine and Georgia into NATO. In doing this, he broke NATO apart. There is now a European pillar inside NATO, a pillar strong enough to deflect and even stop the Bush Administration. By this action, Germany and France with 11 European NATO members in alliance have carved out what amounts to a European NATO which now guards Europe's interests. What President Putin and Russia gained here was the establishment of the final forward borders of the NATO alliance. These are geopolitical and geo-strategic borders that will NOT include Ukraine and Georgia. Concretely, what Russia gained was its continued strategic access to its old historical naval base of Sevastopol. That maintains Russian naval supremacy over the Black Sea and its access to the Mediterranean and the Middle East. The exclusion of Georgia from NATO maintains Russia supremacy over the Caucasus - and its oil. The great value here is that the NATO break up undermines the foundation of the US Empire.