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To: Travis_Bickle who wrote (58914)	4/13/2008 8:00:31 AM
From: Bearcatbob	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 542038

"There are many Americans who do want to kill black people" Now there is some real hate speech. Hey Dale - you reading this?

To: Travis_Bickle who wrote (58914)	4/13/2008 9:58:20 AM
From: epicure	Respond to of 542038

There are a small minority of very strange Americans who want to kill minorities. I have never met one- even my Uncle Joe, the most prejudiced person I ever met (and yet, a decent man, a good father, a huge embarrassment to his non-prejudiced children)- did not want to kill minorities. Holding up another whacky group does not make that whacky meme in the black community less whacky. Ok- Klansmen want to kill black people, and people in black churches believe enough white people want to kill black people that they'd create AIDS in order to do it. I'm seeing both sets of folks as pretty ignorant, and both sets as holding a very nutty meme. I am willing to somewhat excuse it in older blacks, who remember Tuskegee- I can understand their suspicion, but that doesn't make it any less crazy- from the perspective of someone on the outside. There are plenty of better ways to kill blacks (if you wanted to) than something as random as a virus let loose on the world. Here is an interesting discussion of smallpox and Indians- and a particularly interesting paragraph: h-net.msu.edu >Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 13:23:27 EDT >From: "Jeffrey W. Reed" <jreed02@emory.edu> On the plan to use smallpox as a weapon against the Indians; Parkman, in _The Conspiracy of Pontiac_ (Vol 2, pgs 39-40, in the new Bison edition) discussed this proposal. The idea, apparently, came from Lord Amherst, in a letter of orders to Col Bouquet, saying "Could it not be contrived to send the Small Pox among those disaffected tribes of Indians? We must on this occassion use every stratagem in our power to reduce them". Bocquet replied that he would try and use infected blankets as a means of introducing the disease among the Indians, but was wary of the effects that it would have on his own men. Bouquet then proposes using- in "the Spanish method"- a combination of hunting dogs, rangers and light horsemen, in an effort to "effectually extirpate or remove that vermin" at little risk to his own men. Amherst readily agreed, hoping that the use of smallpox infested blankets, as well as any other method be used that "can serve to extirpate this execrable race", although he did not think that the hunting dog idea was practical. Parkman states that there is no evidence that Bouquet ever used the smallpox plan, although an epedemic raged among the Ohio Indians "a few months after" the July 1763 correspondence. Jeffrey W. Reed jreed02emory.edu