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To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (33120)	4/14/2008 4:44:08 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 217917

What collateral damage? Punish crimes = people harming other people. Drunk driving doesn't harm other people. If people drive drunk and crash into somebody, use them as organ donors. Pretty soon, nobody will crash into other people when they are drunk. Heck, even if they aren't drunk and crash into people, use them as organ donors. Nature does that with cliffs. Drive off a cliff, the punishment is to have your protein recycled. No ifs, buts or long drawn out court discussions. Okay, maybe organ donor is excessive for the most part. Serious financial and other penalties would induce good behaviour. But don't punish drunk driving. Punish making a mistake. It's easy to drive drunk if one is cautious. Go slowly, concentrate like crazy. I had one of my best halves at golf while sobering up after drinking a bottle of wine on an empty stomach. I had to make sure my feet were well planted so I could balance, then focus really hard on the ball so I could know where it was. No distractions. Of course it wasn't my best, I was really surprised and somewhat concerned about my normal lack of focus. But I won $50 from my buddy who knows I can't handle alcohol and thought it would be an easy $50. Mqurice

To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (33120)	4/14/2008 6:45:10 PM
From: Sea Otter	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 217917

Collateral damage is where the law comes in. If I drive intoxicated I should be punished, as I've put other people at risk. But if I sit at home intoxicated, then that's no one's business, as the only one at risk is myself. Likewise, if I want to smoke a cigarette and grow a cancer, that is no one's business. But if I give a cigarette to a kid, then I'm pushing a dangerous and addictive substance and putting him at risk - and thus should be punished. Same principle should apply to all drugs, not just alcohol and tobacco. But instead the government cherry-picks. Blacks get huge sentences for smoking crack, but rich whites get wrist slaps for snorting coke. Drink a beer is okay, but smoke a joint and you go to jail. It's not okay to drink kava, but it is okay to flood your body with anti-depressants and to give your kid amphetamines (like Ritalin). We are very confused and hypocritical about drugs. Interestingly, some of the most vocal "Just Say No" people I know love their booze and nicotine, and routinely fill their system with steroids, amphetamines and god-knows-what. They're raving drug maniacs and they don't even know it. But they're very happy if some ravers get busted for smoking a joint and popping some ecstasy. After all, everyone knows drugs are "bad" and deserve punishment. Except for themselves.

To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (33120)	4/15/2008 7:56:34 AM
From: Pogeu Mahone	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 217917

Go to Amsterdam. What collateral damage?

To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (33120)	4/15/2008 11:00:59 PM
From: average joe	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 217917

There is no collateral damage. All drugs should be legalized and taxed because they will never go away. The only groups that wants street drugs kept illegal is the drug cartels and the competing pharmaceutical companies. Instead of incarcerating people at great expense give them a safe place to go where drugs could be sold and administered. If someone insists on doing a line of coke they would be assured by the government they are doing the best line of coke available. Usually they are ingesting meth cut with laxative. I would promote opium dens where people peacefully contemplate their navels have a nice sleep and don't become rowdy. This is collateral damage.... findarticles.com