To: Maurice Winn who wrote (33121 ) 4/14/2008 4:58:24 PM From: carranza2 Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 217770 Mq, all the skills you learned and work the work you have tackeld without training are indications of a fine self-reliance. I think that the fact that you do everything you can on your own is terrific and commendable. However, there is a cost in the sense that it takes a lot of time to learn the things we don't know. Moreover, many of these skills you describe are unlikely to be used again, e.g., how many wills do you think you will probate during your lifetime before you run into trouble with the local Lawyers' Cabal for practicing law without a license? And there is of course the possibility that you could make a dog's breakfast of some of the things you attempt without formal training much as I did when I thought as a six or seven year old that I could dismantle my beautiful Mickey Mouse watch and put it back together again. There is also the time-lost cost as no doubt much of the time you used in learning the activities you mention might have been more profitably used elsewhere. Leisure is in my estimation the true measure of wealth. If you can afford to pay someone else to do mundane chores, freeing up your time to rant, read, play with grandkids, or whatever suits you, then the payment of these fees is worth the cost. Drudge work is easy to find, liberating leisure is not, and since our time on this blue green orb is limited, I opt whenever I can to pay someone else to do my drudge work so I can use my time more profitably elsewhere. There are of course limits to this as I actually enjoy some tasks which others might describe as drudge work. Plus, I do it as an example to my son, in order to instill the appropriate work ethic.