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To: Road Walker who wrote (378389)	4/15/2008 11:56:15 AM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575175

"What Obama was trying to say, without saying it, was that the rednecks won't vote for him 'cause he's black. He's really walking a rhetorical tight rope." I am not so sure. This isn't the first time he has addressed that issue in public. He shows a great deal of understanding of the dynamics. talkingpointsmemo.com I think there is context missing here. Given his earlier statements, he doesn't strike me as someone who was being condescending. Here is Josh Marshall's take on it. My understanding is that Obama was answering a question from someone who planned to go canvass for him in Pennsylvania and what they should expect since it's portrayed as being unfriendly ground for him. And what I understood him to be saying is that years of economic abandonment have left many communities in middle America even more reliant on community, tradition, their religion, etc. -- and from a political standpoint very protective of it.

To: Road Walker who wrote (378389)	4/15/2008 12:22:03 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1575175

That small box comes from candidates not being able to speak the truth....instead they are supposed to give people what they want to hear. When a candidate comes along who finally wants to really talk about the issues, its to be expected the opposition will try to trash him for it. Herbert had a pretty good column today. What Obama was trying to say, without saying it, was that the rednecks won't vote for him 'cause he's black. He's really walking a rhetorical tight rope. I am not sure he was saying that.....in fact, I believe that's not what he was saying. What would be the point.....its old news. What I think he was saying is what he said.......that poor whites, and this goes for poor blacks as well, have developed crutches to explain/mitigate the pain associated with poverty. And since those crutches do little to alleviate the pain, they have become bitter. I hadn't thought about it much but I think he has it just about right. People...rural whites/urban blacks.....seem to get caught in a cycle of poverty that eventually becomes a rut from which they can not get out.