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To: Dale Baker who wrote (59664)	4/16/2008 11:04:21 PM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 542999

I thought this debate was easily the worst I watched. I've been trying to think of other debates that were equally badly handled by the moderators. Many were bad, but this one was consistently so. Both candidates were better, much better tahn the moderators. The list of questions, serious policy questions, that weren't asked are, while not endless, certainly long. I agree that both candidates looked tired but I thought Obama looked a bit more so. He had some good responses to the moderators but overall he just seemed tired and, I wouldn't be surprised if he felt angry that this debate was framed by the politics he hopes to transcend. In addition to a new president, we need to do something about news media types like Gibson, et al.

To: Dale Baker who wrote (59664)	4/17/2008 3:45:31 AM
From: ChinuSFO	Respond to of 542999

This was the worst debate I have seen. I dozed off towards the last part of the debate. And so I am up now, 12:45 PST. The moderates were way below par compared to t he MSNBC folks. I thought the CNN folks were bad. These guys today were worse. One thing I learnt today is that of the many folks Bill pardoned in the 11th hour, there were two from Weather underground. And that is the sort of junk that we will vote for to return to the WH with Hillary. ================================== In Pa. Debate, The Clear Loser Is ABC By Tom Shales Thursday, April 17, 2008; C01 When Barack Obama met Hillary Clinton for another televised Democratic candidates' debate last night, it was more than a step forward in the 2008 presidential election. It was another step downward for network news -- in particular ABC News, which hosted the debate from Philadelphia and whose usually dependable anchors, Charlie Gibson and George Stephanopoulos, turned in shoddy, despicable performances. For the first 52 minutes of the two-hour, commercial-crammed show, Gibson and Stephanopoulos dwelled entirely on specious and gossipy trivia that already has been hashed and rehashed, in the hope of getting the candidates to claw at one another over disputes that are no longer news. Some were barely news to begin with. ...contd at washingtonpost.com