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To: LindyBill who wrote (246528)	4/19/2008 9:06:58 PM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 793896

Until it's investigated, how can you ascertain force? And also, an interesting question is whether, because of the whole "brainwashing" aspect of the cult (something you as an agnostic or atheist should appreciate), "force" isn't as clearcut as it might be. If young girls have this belief inculcated from birth, then probably force as we're defining it isn't going to be apparent. It's really a fascinating conundrum, Lindy, because I really am a libertarian by nature, but when a group develops a patriarchal, punitive hierarchy that denies freedom to others, then there is a problem. And I repeat, that younger women have been married off to older men for hundreds of years, does not persuade me. Women as property has been the rule those hundreds of years. Our coming into equality is a very recent event in history.

To: LindyBill who wrote (246528)	4/19/2008 9:31:27 PM
From: Shoot1st	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793896

You sound as though you don't have a teen aged granddaughter. You say they cry to sleep at night....ah ha.... Yet you offer no thought that they might have cried to sleep at their "home." Comparing bad to worse will never make bad look good except in the eyes of the excuse monger. Your argument is the argument that doing nothing is better than doing something. One thing is for certain....these kids will not be raped where they are now. Being a Libertarian does not equate to allowing the possibility of what was going on there to continue simply because of your political view. Shootieonthefarright

To: LindyBill who wrote (246528)	4/19/2008 10:01:53 PM
From: miraje	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793896

I am a Libertarian. Young women marrying older men is the rule, not the exception, in human history. Unless you have a clear-cut case of force being used, stay the hell out of it. Passions are sure flying on this topic here.. :-) I fully agree with your sentiments above.. Younger women marrying older men is still a common situation in many cultures and areas of the world. In regards to this latest affair, mainstream LDS culture (in Utah and surrounds), although officially disallowing polygamy, has a "wink wink" attitude towards it, and May/December relationships and marriages are far from unusual there. My "ex" showed me a number of "plyg" houses in the Salt Lake metro area where polygamous families were living quite openly..