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To: Ilaine who wrote (34014)4/27/2008 10:24:54 PM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217705
 
Too late for edit, of course not all American men make excellent husbands, some are absolute horrors.



To: Ilaine who wrote (34014)4/27/2008 10:41:09 PM
From: Riskmgmt  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217705
 
Hi llaine,
<<Is it the man's duty to provide for his wife? Certainly not. >>

I'd say depends on the agreements made. If a couple want children and the man agrees to support and provide for the woman so that she can stay home and raise the children, then it is his duty to do so.

<<However, if your culture is advanced enough that women have jobs that pay them enough money to support themselves, and the legal system gives them the right to custody of their children, and the legal system gives them the right to child support, then divorces will happen.>>

So women choose divorce because they are better off? I'd hardly call that culture advanced.

<<By far more women file for divorce than men.>>

Exactly!

<<Any man can treat his woman right, but so few of them realize it's important. They treat women like servants, they treat women like cattle, they treat women like objects.>>

I am sure there are all kinds of relationships good and bad ones. I personally don't know any marriages where the men treat their woman like servants, cattle or objects.
How would you describe the 'treat his woman right" I mean exactly?



To: Ilaine who wrote (34014)4/27/2008 10:42:56 PM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 217705
 
<<if your culture is advanced enough that women have jobs that pay them enough money to support themselves, and the legal system gives them the right to custody of their children, and the legal system gives them the right to child support, then divorces will happen>>

i do not claim to know the divorce laws in other parts, and certainly would not try to rate advances of cultures by the laws they create, but i am sure that all hk laws are superior to all usa laws, and that the divorce law in hong kong must beat that of the usa hands down and yet divorcereform.org is is is in full glory

... any explanations? however twisted.

multiple choices time:
(i) there are fewer bad men in hk than in usa
(ii) there are more bad men in usa than in hk
(iii) hk women are more responsible to the kids than american women
(iv) american women are less responsible to the kids than hk women
(v) it is a systemic cultural thing that is wired into the chromo gene lattice
(vi) all of the above

as to the rest of your generalities, hardly worth commenting on, except to say should you wish to send you better half out here, we will have him reformed in zero time flat, because better is just that, better.

<<I think American men make the world's best husbands>>

... how many different sorts have you sampled? so what data points are you referencing?

<<Any man can treat his woman right, but so few of them realize it's important. They treat women like servants, they treat women like cattle, they treat women like objects>>

... i see, so you prefer to have a guy treat you right because he realizes it is important in some real sense, as opposed to that it is the thing to do in some natural way. Interesting.

I would wish that whomever my daughter eventually ends up with treats her right by nature, as opposed to by some factors deemed important. Our points of arrival are not the same point, because our points of departure are wide apart.

<<And don't even get me started on how they treat their children>>

... delicious ... it is best you do not get started on this topic! Else do tell on how generally americans treat their children, as opposed to folks around the whole wide world do it ... i am not baiting you, but will reel you in should you proceed down that awful path.

btw, we in hk do not send our children to kill and die in the desert; and we limit their in-take of texas wine (coca cola) and freedom fries.



To: Ilaine who wrote (34014)4/29/2008 8:41:20 AM
From: oldirtybastard  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217705
 
By far more women file for divorce than men

That's because filing for divorce is the first step in the woman getting paid (or 2nd, as marriage itself was the 1st) and the man doing the paying, pretty obvious that the one getting paid will be initiating things.

American men make the worlds best husbands

I heard Chinese are good at math and Indians own lots of convenience stores and American blacks like to fill prisons. Any other generalities you want to share?