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To: Ilaine who wrote (34086)4/29/2008 8:54:58 AM
From: oldirtybastard  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217781
 
I've seen countless American men married to women from all over the world, Asian, European, African, Latina, Caribbean, Pacific Rim, but American women don't tend to do the same.

For the most part, though with exceptions due to chance as opposed to premeditated seeking out of specific race, those American men are called fetishists, not egalitarians. They are marrying "exotics" because that is what gets them off, though the non-American women are also most likely better educated and act and feel less entitled so it works out well.



To: Ilaine who wrote (34086)4/29/2008 9:15:54 AM
From: Stock Farmer  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 217781
 
CB: I'm an American man.

Naturally, your hypothesis that American men make better husbands is emotionally appealing. But it's bunk.

Take two of your *hypotheses* as simultaneously true: American men tend to make better husbands, and American women tend to marry American men.

Take the *fact* that America also has the highest divorce rate of any nationality.

So American women are divorcing better husbands at a higher rate than in other countries!

So that makes American women clueless? Or is the high divorce rate a product of the actions of those "better husbands"?

Pick one of these swords to fall upon, or perhaps admit that the premise is flawed. Which kills at least one of your two hypotheses.

I offer that you are merely imputing cause from effect, which is a common mistake.

In actual fact, more often than not American women choose American men as husbands for a host of reasons, and, judging by the divorce rate, most of these reasons aren't very well thought out.

In the end, using the marital choices made by American women (or American men for that matter, I am not gender biased) to butress any argument about the marital qualities of the other gender flies so square in the face of any "logical" argument as to raise me to reply.

You may "feel" you have won, but that's an internal field of battle, largely meaningless out here.

Just FYI, a jury of your peers might "feel" differently.



To: Ilaine who wrote (34086)4/29/2008 9:47:58 AM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217781
 
<<American women don't tend to do the same>>

... why do you suppose that is, when obviously 50% of them are not as happy as you claim?

now, cb ilanine, think, why?

maybe it takes two to agree to get married, and ... by golly, could it be that ... no ... cannot be? but what else can it be?

hmmmnnnn, a puzzle, but perhaps only to cb ilaine ...

reference - ideal mate Message 24538984 <<Smart, but not bossy
Gentle demeanor but strong character
Presentable but not fussy
Can cook a plus>>


as to sending sons and daughters into the desert to die, how many sons and daughters died in iraq vs xinjiang?

reeling you in ... so, we are now clearly talking about degrees of evil, are we not?

as to aussies making good husbands and dads, a topical and timely report news.bbc.co.uk to mirror the sickness that is going on in your backyard called texas.

dunno, cb ilaine, i fail to see your alleged cultural superiority claimed countless times by you and you again.

let us try to keep the volley going.

chugs, tj



To: Ilaine who wrote (34086)4/29/2008 9:54:39 AM
From: Stock Farmer  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 217781
 
Women are equal to men as human beings, in every way that matters.

I disagree. And so does my extremely civil-rights minded, "life-partner" (who also happens to be Canadian, a woman, vegetarian, a lawyer, and a wonderful mother), so you can dispense with resorting to some typical knee-jerk gender-biased gender-bias retort.

Women and men are *not* equal. In actual fact they are *different*. In ways that *matter*.

Not in a way that makes one "more" or "less", just in the way that right hands and left hands are different. Or semen and ova are different, if you want a more explicit example.

Men, in general, have an a greater amount of the hormone testosterone circulating within their bodies. Women, in general, have a greater amount of the hormone estrogen circulating.

The interaction of Testosterone with cognitive and physical functions is well documented to be different than that of Estrogen.

COGNITIVE BEHAVIOR (which I presume you will admit "matters") IS DIFFERENTIALLY AFFECTED in men and women. This leads to all kinds of differences in response, in behavior, in thought patterns, conclusions, actions and so on and so on. Some more or less appropriate in various circumstances, but neither more appropriate in general in all circumstances. Different and not equal, but not better.

I do agree with what you might be attempting to say, which is that these differences, while material, do not in aggregate render men or women more or less valuable as contributors to society - any more than left hands or right hands are any more inherrently valuable in grasping things, or semen and ova are with resepct to making babies.

Are semen and ova equal in all respects that matter? Can a man breast-feed a child? Does this *matter*?

In your practice, do you not regularly argue (at least when representing the woman) that the maternal bond is more signifcant than the paternal bond when it comes to provisions for a young child's residential schedule? Or do you admit to arguing irrelevance, and would you serve your client if you made such a claim to the judge?

Obviously you argue against your espoused views at your convenience.

Equality and equity are distinctly different concepts. You are mistaking the two.

Men and women are different. Not better or worse, just different.

Vive la difference!



To: Ilaine who wrote (34086)4/29/2008 10:17:06 AM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217781
 
<<It doesn't take much in the way of personal insults for me to see where you're headed>>

... how so?