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To: Road Walker who wrote (382184)	5/2/2008 11:37:36 AM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572776

"When the original plan is flawed, it's near impossible for a war to bring any good. But we added even more mistakes, and continue to add more mistakes. It's the worst policy train wreck in US history, including Vietnam (although Nam cost many more lives)." well said. US has the same problems as the israelis. War is ugly and as much as one tries to limit civilian deaths, they still occur in numbers that delegitimize the operation in the first place. What is needed is resolve to use overwhelming force without overconcern for civilian casualties in major situations. That will at least provide deterrent value. But along side that, you have to be more willing to talk to the bad actors. Thats why this neocon, pro-israel, america second sob (according to chris parsons) supported carters initiative with hamas. And i have proposed talking to iran for the longest time because US and Iran have some common interests that can be the basis for peace. Same with israel/syria peace talks.

To: Road Walker who wrote (382184)	5/2/2008 5:26:35 PM
From: i-node	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1572776

It's the worst policy train wreck in US history, including Vietnam A totally ridiculous claim. Vietnam was 58300 lives lost for nothing. Iraq, if we are successful, will radically alter the Middle East FOREVER, in a way that provides numerous important benefits for the United States. This is a Harry-Reid-esque remark you made, essentially, "We've lost the war". Not until the war is won or lost will it be determined whether the decision to go to war was good or bad. You cannot measure that based on public sentiment, which is almost always wrong on these subjects. We did what we had to do and what should have been done years earlier. Now that it has turned into a rougher fight than expected, we don't just walk away from it. We do the job. I just hope some of you guys are still around when it is over, and when the outcome can be rationally evaluated. Today, it cannot be.

To: Road Walker who wrote (382184)	5/2/2008 5:32:17 PM
From: Alighieri	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1572776

I never, at an moment, thought it was worth it. 'Miracle' Marine dies; badly burned in 2005 Iraq blast By The Associated Press Fri May 2, 8:37 AM ET A Marine sergeant who became a symbol of resilience as he strove to recover from a roadside bomb blast in Iraq that blanketed 97 percent of his body with burns has died, the Defense Department said. He was 22. ADVERTISEMENT Sgt. Merlin German died April 11 at Brooke Army Medical Center in San Antonio, where he was continuing treatment for the injuries he suffered in combat on Feb. 22, 2005, the Pentagon said Thursday. The former turret gunner was dubbed the "Miracle Man" for his determination in facing his wounds, which cost the former saxophone player his fingers and rippled his face with scars. He endured more than 40 surgeries, spent 17 months in a hospital and had to learn to walk again. Meanwhile, he started a charity, Merlin's Miracles, to aid child burn victims and considered college and a career. "Sometimes I do think I can't do it," he told The Associated Press last year. "Then I think: Why not? I can do whatever I want. ... Nobody has ever been 97 percent dead and survived, and lived to walk." Born in New York City, German moved to its suburbs as a teenager. He enlisted in the Marine Corps in September 2003, according to his charity's Web site. He was medically retired four years later, the Defense Department said. German had been stationed at Camp Pendleton, Calif. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger announced that the state Capitol's flags would be flown at half-staff in German's honor, saying the sergeant's "courage and unfailing loyalty serve as an inspiration to Americans everywhere."