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To: Rambi who wrote (249083)5/6/2008 8:11:16 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793955
 
So many experts warned of exactly what was to come, and for whatever reasons they were ignored.

Look, Rambi, the facts are not with you here. Go back and look up what Iraq experts like Anthony Cordesman and Phebe Marr were actually saying in 2002. That's on the record. Go look what Ken Pollack said in The Threatening Storm - and may I remind you, he was a CIA analyst. They were NOT saying the country would break up. You know, many of the tribes of Iraq are both Sunni and Shia inside one single tribe. The Iraqis ALL say that before 2003 nobody cared who was Sunni or Shia on a personal level. What mattered was if you were Saddam's second cousin or not.

Iraq was created in 1920. That's a long time to form a national consciousness. Hell, the Palestinians didn't even have their national consciousness formed until after 1967 - are you saying they can't exist either?

Iraq had never self-governed; the monarchy was nominal, and the following rulers rose and fell constantly.

Say what? It was a colony only briefly between the wars, and ruled lightly at that. Post-war, it ruled itself.

I find it just unbelievable the choices the admin made regarding their approach and follow up to this war. So many experts warned of exactly what was to come, and for whatever reasons they were ignored.

Oh yeah? I dare you to find me a prominent Iraq expert saying so IN 2002. Not the slimy CIA types CYAing since. (The whole agency should be renamed CYA as far as I'm concerned.)