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To: Cogito who wrote (64331)	5/8/2008 2:42:05 AM
From: DanD	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542829

To add to Allen's allegorical experience. Studies of many countries with socialized medicine show them outperforming the U.S. in many if not all public health statistics. From cradle (http://www.who.int/research/WHO_maternal_mortality_ratio.pdf) to grave (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longevity#Present_life_expectancies_around_the_world). Dan D.

To: Cogito who wrote (64331)	5/8/2008 3:54:41 AM
From: Patricia Trinchero	Respond to of 542829

Worldwide life expectancy maps: worldpolicy.org

To: Cogito who wrote (64331)	5/8/2008 6:13:51 AM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542829

If there were public health coverage, people wouldn't have to go to the emergency room to be treated for colds. They'd be able to have a regular doctor. Indeed. But that's not the only way to see a doctor. It's not binary. It's not. Besides, you shouldn't waste either your money or your insurance pool's money or the state's money seeing a doctor when you have a cold.

To: Cogito who wrote (64331)	5/8/2008 8:09:23 AM
From: biotech_bull	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 542829

in Canada, she didn't have to wait to get treatment That is the exception not the norm. Affluent Canadians routinely come to major US Medical Centers for major procedures such as bypass due to the long wait times. Longevity depends on many other factors such as lifestyle, genetics etc. It is naive to think that having Universal Healthcare in the US will magically prolong the longevity to equal that of Sweden & Canada, countries that are more homogenous than the US The goal of Universal Healthcare is laudable, even necessary and will be one of the key debates of this election,at least as far as the independents are concerned. Radical changes, however, have to be approached with caution - as we say in medicine, the good thing about radical surgery is it always succeeds in removing the disease. The trouble is sometimes it kills the patient.