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Politics : The Environmentalist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: HPilot who wrote (21613)	5/15/2008 11:26:36 AM
From: Thomas A Watson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 36921

So how does CO2 drive global warming beyond it's percentage properties in 40 PPM vs H20 in tens of thousands of PPM. There are numerous examples of how H20 impacts cooling of the earth in rates of several degrees per hour. There are no examples of how CO2 that changes anually several ppm has any effect I have personally done what the hell is air. hell, look at the satellite pics of the various sounder channels. toms.homeip.net It does not add up. I have no idea what fuze has you stating "This is not a theory. This is a simple engineering statement of fact." is not true. from toms.homeip.net The atomic weight of CO2 44 The specific heat of CO2 .85 cal/g CO2 does not change phase for any natural atmospheric temperature and pressure. The atomic weight of H20 18 The specific heat of H20 1 cal/g H20 Latent heat of Fusion 80 cal/g H20 Latent heat of Vaporization 540 cal/g read arm.gov The role of clouds and water vapor in climate change is not well understood; yet water vapor is the largest greenhouse gas and directly affects cloud cover and the propagation of radiant energy. In fact, there may be positive feedback between water vapor and other greenhouse gases. Carbon dioxide and other gases from human activities slightly warm the atmosphere, increasing its ability to hold water vapor. Increased water vapor can amplify the effect of an incremental increase of other greenhouse gases. Achieving ARM's programmatic objectives should lead to the improved treatment of atmospheric radiation in climate models, explicitly recognizing the crucial role of clouds in influencing radiation and the consequent need for accurate descriptions of the presence and properties of clouds in climate models. Key scientific issues which must be resolved to achieve these objectives include: 1. What are the effects of atmospheric constituents, particularly clouds, water vapor and aerosols on the radiative flow of energy through the atmosphere and across the Earth's surface? 2. What is the nature of the variability of radiation and the radiative properties of the atmosphere on climatically relevant space and time scales? 3. What are the primary interactions among the various dynamic, thermodynamic, and radiative processes that determine the radiative properties of an atmospheric column, including clouds and the underlying surface? 4. How do radiative processes interact with dynamical and hydrologic processes to produce cloud feedbacks that regulate climate change?